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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Such a weird thing to be excited about. Biden will get half the time to make appointments. This is the AstroTurf of good news.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Not to mention, none of those judges are as left of the centre as Trump's are for the right. They are not going to save the country, especially with this Supreme Court.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If it were 6 of the 9 that mattered to most of us, I'd be excited. Instead I'm just kinda bloated

[–] jeffw 3 points 1 day ago

Judge /= justice

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is the AstroTurf of good news.

Which is par for the course from MotherJones

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago

Well, the other will spend four more years making appointments. I’m sure he’ll catch up.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just none of the important ones.

[–] jeffw 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

All judges are important, so I’m not sure what you mean

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Besides appeals or SCOTUS everyone below can be overridden

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Not practically, though, otherwise the post wouldn't make sense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The appellate courts do not hear anywhere near the volume of cases that district judges go through.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But supreme court sets precedent for the other courts and deals with most potentially damaging cases.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Precedent is set by every court. The Supreme Court considers what 9 judges think are the most important cases but a lot of times they aren't. They regularly punt on difficult decisions. District courts don't really have as much ability to do that so a lot of law is created at the local level. Also, the judges define the culture of the court.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The precedent set by circuit courts is only binding to court's own jurisdiction and can be overridden by the supreme court if it wants. And the cases that can make or break democracy will be heard by the supreme court.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Chevron doctrine wasn't overturned by a federal district court judge.

It was overturned by a group of regulatory captured supreme court justices.

Sure, all judges are important but let's not placate ourselves in saying that Biden has filled more judges than Trump.

The damage the court has done to jurisprudence is going to be felt for decades.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

The end of a vaguely-functioning America is so...tepid. Really shows how long we've been screwed. Movies got us wrong every time.

[–] pyre 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

awesome, that means abortion rights are protected again, right?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Doesn't it not really matter that much since the majority of SCOTUS judges are R appointees, and they get to pick and choose which appeals they want to rule on?

I'm not American, so please forgive me if I'm misunderstanding your judicial system.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're right about the mechanism of the Supreme Court justices. They rule on many important cases and regularly set precident.

However, since the vast, vast majority of cases don't end up in the Supreme Court, lower courts have a massive impact into how justice is served.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

That's true, and I guess for smaller decisions the lower courts will have some leeway, but they ultimately still have to follow precedent set by SCOTUS.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago
[–] caveman8000 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Why don't we just take the whole "appointment of judges" away. Why are we not electing judges?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago

Elected judges are far worse than appointed. You do not want someone campaigning and judging cases at the same time. They inevitably issue decisions that have precedential downstream effects and are based purely on trying to win their electorate.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago

Direct popular vote judge elections have their own set of issues - at the very least for lower courts

For instance, they tend to lead towards judges issuing out harsher penalties when campaigning than they normally would to appear "'tough on crime"

[–] d00phy 8 points 2 days ago

Look who the electorate just chose to run the country. You want them selecting judges too!? It’s slightly better the way it is since there’s at least some oversight.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately, the orange is about to appoint a ton more. I hate this timeline.