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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Can someone calculate the calories in that? I'm too lazy.

Maybe don't include the sugar. That's a shit ton of sugar to go through in month.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

They have almost as much sugar as starch, 2.5kg of meat, and no other protein?

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Unpopular opinion: we need to ration electricity consumption as well as fuel today, even in capitalists countries. Because that stuff actually has incredible impact on the planet, and will (must) drive consumption down, so that companies / individuals start integrating "efficiency" into their thinking

I don't see any other solution to the "exponentially growing power consumption" problem.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I don’t see any other solution to the “exponentially growing power consumption” problem.

In the U.S., at least, power generation has been roughly flat for the last 20 years, not growing exponentially:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_of_the_United_States#/media/File:Timeline_of_U.S._electricity_generation_by_major_energy_source.png

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

c/selfhosted has entered the chat

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (4 children)

ah 12 packs of cigarettes and a half a litre of vodka. a complete balanced breakfast.

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[–] Kvoth 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not gonna say that's anywhere near sufficient, but as a US citizen where do I sign up

[–] PugJesus 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be ration-limited by what you can purchase? I'm sure that's a fad diet somewhere.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya 6 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I might bring tankies out of the woodwork for saying this, but I remember one time a tankie told me that scarcity in communist countries is by design and it's a good thing, after I pointed out that people had to be on the waiting list just to get a car. What if the person lives in rural with no access to public transport?

I understand capitalism is wasteful, but doing the extreme opposite and making people wait to own a car or giving someone bare essentials is not a good thing. Having a scarcity economy is not good, especially considering that the Soviet Union produced more tanks than cars throughout its history. The American military industrial complex is rightly criticised for overspending, but communist countries are worse since the case is that more tanks were made than civilian cars. It means more budget went to the military than to producing consumer good. Talk about priorities.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'm as anti-capitalist as it comes but how the hell would this even last half a week, let alone a night with the vodka, rice, and sweets

[–] AA5B 2 points 21 hours ago

Pretty sure they’d grow their own vegetables

[–] finitebanjo 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

The rice is about 6 us measuring cups worth, and 1 cup is enough for 2 people to have a meal after it soaks up a bunch of water (plus a bit little vodka and sugar for taste).

The Flour can make several loaves of bread as well, it's about 5000 Calories for that bag without considering oil added for a nice focaccia or butter and milk for a classic brioche.

If each person gets this then it can ~~be sufficient~~ last a week or two, but I assume it was supplementary in nature.

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[–] scutiger 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Half a liter of vodka monthly? Aren't the Poles known for their consumption of vast quantities of the stuff?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Yeast is not on the list but the 2kg of sugar wasn't just for cakes I'm sure.

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[–] passiveaggressivesonar 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If you still gained a salary from work and could buy the rest of what you need this really isn't that bad

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago

I was trying to figure out how to make it work for week but a month?

[–] RestrictedAccount 16 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Alright, where are the anti capitalist tankies defending this?

[–] repungnant_canary 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

This has little to do with socialism/capitalism and more with that fact that the economy was centrally (terribly) governed and most of the products were exported to the "friend nation USSR"

[–] PugJesus 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

75% of sugar output exported to the Sovs while the citizens of Poland 'enjoyed' sugar rationing.

[–] niktemadur 7 points 1 day ago

75% of sugar output exported to moscow and leningrad, you think the people of anywhere outside the immediate vicinity of those two cities got to see any of it? Let alone anywhere east of the Urals?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Their priorities were fucked up. Cigarettes and alcohol, obviously, but more sugar than rice? Huh?

Also, lots of meat but no other food groups?

[–] PugJesus 26 points 1 day ago

Elsewhere in the comments it's mentioned that these were just the rationed things; there were unrationed foodstuffs.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Rice is not precisely native to Poland... The staple food is potatoes, which weren't rationed.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That is around 970 calories a day if you take 1/30th of each edible item on the Table.

It's not enough, but surprisingly almost half the needed amount.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

You supplement it with potatoes, carrots, cabbage, cucumbers and other veggies. And some apples and seasonal fruit.

Things sucked but people weren't malnourished back then.

Also not shown here: gasoline was also rationed, as were cars themselves.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If Poland is anything like the US, families were expected to keep a garden where they grew many vegetables and fruits, and often kept chickens.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago (1 children)

0.5 liter of vodka? What were they supposed to do the other 29 days of the month?

[–] bhamlin 16 points 1 day ago

Let alone the rest of the first day?

[–] Maalus 140 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Lmao 2.5kg of meat? Forget it. If you got any, it was a day to celebrate. You couldn't get shit for stamps and you had to stand in long queues to get the scraps that you could get. You waited for hours for a delivery that immediately disappeared or didn't come at all. You literally bought what you could. People used to barter the stamps and a grey market to get what you needed popped up. The only way to get what you wanted was to pay with dollars.

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[–] LovableSidekick 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wow, I see the sugar industry was as influential there as it was in America.

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