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[–] daggermoon 13 points 17 hours ago

Unless they make Ecosia the default search engine in Firefox, this is worthless.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Ecosia sounds like a company worth supporting. I wish they'd offer a paid, ad-free plan.

How does it compare to Kagi, anyone used both?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Kagi seems like a circus. Search quality? It's interesting. Worth supporting? Up to you, but know that your money will still go to actual search result providers first, and what's left goes to people who care more about shirts than privacy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Quality is pretty good though. Have been using it for about a year. I'd like to find a non-profit search and pay for that instead though. Ecosia comes close in some regards but I don't see an ad-free option.

[–] ikidd 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe they'll spend it all on Tshirts, worked for Kagi.

[–] wreckedcarzz 2 points 14 hours ago

I like my Kagi t-shirt, except the sizes are deceptive. I'm a chubby fuck but I fit comfortably in a US XL tee. I ordered an XL for Kagi. This shit is like a size smaller; "form fitting" if you will. I wasn't planning on showcasing my moobs but I guess we are doing that now.

I like the search engine though. Been using it for a bit over a year. No real complaints; maybe a bit expensive, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

Haven't used kagi, but ecosia is another bing fronted.

It's duckduckgo, but the profits from the ads are used to plant trees.

If you need/want something like kagi, only kagi exists at the moment. There is nothing comparable in quality and features

If you still want to throw some money at them, they have a store where you can buy some merch and plant a tree

[–] MisterMoo 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“OMG this is crazy but in light of the looming Google antitrust stuff did y’all realize there are other browsers out there??”

[–] [email protected] 18 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

realize there are other browsers out there?

You meant search engines?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Ya there’s only 2 types of browsers :( chromium and Firefox based. There’s a total monopoly on that

[–] Neon 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Safari (webkit) and there are two currently trying to get into existence

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Well there's Ladybird which is open source and uses its own browser engine. Can't seem to remember or find the other one though, but this one is more mature iirc

[–] theherk 6 points 15 hours ago

There are several browsers, but the hard part being discussed here is the browser engine. The current promising up and comers are LibWeb for Ladybird and Servo which is now under management of the Linux Foundation; super exciting.

But as far as just browsers, I recommend the Firefox fork, zen browser. The interface is fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Well, Safari (Webkit) too but nobody likes that one.

Btw, Google's Blink is based on Webkit which is based on KDE's KHTML. Else, there is Gecko (Firefox) and was Trident (MS Internet Explorer). Oh, and QtWebkit but it's slow in JS.

[–] neuroneiro 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Please tell me I overlooked in the press release the link to what they are talking about.

[–] ZephyrXero 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It sounds like Firefox will have a new default search engine soon

[–] PrivacyDingus 24 points 1 day ago

I think that's very unlikely; this PR was delivered pretty much word-for-word with a different partner earlier this year: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox-partners-with-qwant/

imo this is just your standard PR announcement of a partnership between two known entities which will get people talking before they forget about it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

google aint giving mozilla money anymore?

[–] kautau 19 points 1 day ago

It’s proposed, but yes

it prohibits Google from paying to make its search engine the default for third parties, causing pain not just for Alphabet but for others.

Google pays billions annually to Apple and Mozilla to remain the default search engine in Safari and Firefox.

https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/21/usa_vs_google_full_filing/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Here's a suggestion that would show they care about their users and making the web a better place:

Give users the option to download firefox with adblockers pre-installed. Literally put them right next to the "normal" browser download and see which gets more hits.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

because adblockers often lead to websites not working which would lead to non techie people complaining about firefox.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Not really.

Replace "often" with "exceedingly rarely" and you'd be more accurate, but then you can just be describing websites that don't work properly in general.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Of all the things I care about in a search engine, “social impact” has got to be near the bottom.

That they’re touting this as the selling point tells me they’re trying to distract from the real motive.

[–] TheGrandNagus 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Ecosia goes beyond [just] data protection by addressing environmental concerns. Every search made through the search engine contributes to tree-planting projects worldwide, helping to combat deforestation and regenerate the planet. Ecosia planted over 215 million trees, across the planet biodiversity hotspots, making a tangible difference in the fight against climate change. Just like Mozilla, they are committed to creating a better internet, and world, for everyone.

I don't really see the big deal. And while it may be bottom of the list for you, I'm sure others might like the tree-planting thing. From what I can gather with a quick search, they actually do it properly, too, not just planting an ecologically dead monoculture of trees.

And yeah there's an "ulterior motive", although it's not really the evil scheming you're making it sound like. Ecosia paid Mozilla to include them, so now Mozilla has included them as a search option. It's one of the few ways Mozilla can get revenue, because people sure won't pay for a browser these days.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

This selling point is not important to you because you're not part of Mozilla's target market. Mozilla already has the 2% of the internet that hangs out on Lemmy. They're pursuing some of the remaining 98%.

[–] wreckedcarzz -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

LOL cite your opinion buddy.