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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Deleting 107k lines of code is so much more based than adding 107k lines

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It really is. I always make a note to point out how much code is removed in PRs I review

[–] vinnymac 16 points 3 months ago

Code is a liability.

You could probably build a tool that assesses the risk of any given PR based on this and several other signals. PRs with enough risk should require justification and sign off.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Wait I was using one of those drivers!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Heads will roll if my LS-120 drive stops working!

[–] jaybone 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Is there somewhere to get these drivers if you want to run really old hardware?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Running an older kernel isn't an option? Otherwise compiling your own kernel with the drivers should be possible I assume.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No, support for them will end when kernel 6.6 is end of life in 2027.

If interest in the drivers still exists, they could make an out of tree patch set, but it would be easier to just reinstate the driver in the official kernel.

Linux doesn't have an interface for old third party driver code to run on newer kernels like Windows does, it has to be updated for the latest kernel as a patch set.

If you're using older hardware for historical research, then you should run the older kernel that supports it.

[–] LavenderDay3544 6 points 3 months ago

Someone could publish them as dynamic kernel modules.

[–] ikidd 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was devastated when I couldn't use my floppy drives anymore.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

The Software Publishers Association has finally won:

It is no longer possible to copy that floppy. :-(

[–] Supervisor194 3 points 3 months ago
[–] A7thStone 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

this is so supremely cursed

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Yay bloat be gone \O/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

This normal for staging merge?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Why clear them out if they still work and are useful? Seems like a backwards step. What's that phrase that people throw about:sometimes things are just done and don't need changing.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Unmaintained code in the kernel is really bad due to possible vulnerabilities. If you want to keep it, it must be maintained.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

As the kernel moves on changes could be introduced that make them difficult to compile with the new kernel. Unmaintained doesn't only mean not adding new features, it means keeping up with the rest of the code.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago

From another article

The GDM724x is removed for supporting the GCT GDM724x LTE chip based USB modem devices. This driver was merged back in 2013 but is being removed now as the driver isn't being maintained and yields a maintenance workload, the manufacturer GCT doesn't respond to any emails/support, there doesn't appear to be any of the said chips easily available for purchase, there is not any hardware documentation available, and no apparent usage of this driver remaining in the Linux community. Removing the driver clears out 3.6k lines of code and lowers the maintenance burden for other kernel developers.

There was also a vulnerability discovered in July linked to this driver.

So yeah I understand that they chose to remove some drivers from the kernel.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Have you SEEN the base install size for Windows 11?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

because nobody is updating them and the one person that did before was seemingly the only user. Nobody could find any evidence of it being used. When was the last time you ever heard about fieldbus?

the article mentions support for a another interface is also being added, for lab equipment that actually does still get used.