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[–] MellowYellow13 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

He was always crazy though. You just weren't paying attention then. No one remembers him going wild and calling the Thai rescue divers pedophiles to their face and all that?

[–] Ledivin 24 points 5 days ago

The rescue divers were the first real public turning point. He has always been crazy, but he tried really, really, really hard to project a cool-uncle, anti-establishment persona online before that.

I think he eventually just realized he was rich enough to stop caring and so he stopped pretending.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Teslas have been sold since 2005

[–] MellowYellow13 3 points 5 days ago

And Elon's still been crazy.

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[–] 2ugly2live 72 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I bought this before I found out Elon was crazy. Man has always been insane, we just weren't listening yet.

[–] A_Random_Idiot 26 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yep. Elons always been a massive piece of shit.

The idiots who've spent the past decade slobbing all up and down his knob have just willfully turned a blind eye to it cause they subjugated themselves to his derranged cult of personality, that was built all around the idea of his "saviour of humanity" bullshit with regards to his stupid rockets and electric cars.

[–] rob_t_firefly 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Along those lines, the sticker shop from the story has since come out with one that says "I bought this before we knew Elon was crazy."

[–] Ghostalmedia 8 points 6 days ago

I always knew he was crazy, but I never thought he was “kill democracy” crazy. It’s a spectrum.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm just glad Tesla costs more than I can afford. Makes it very easy for the vast majority of us poor plebes to continue to not own one.

I so wanted a Chevy Bolt though.

[–] 2ugly2live 12 points 6 days ago

Yeah. My lack of income saves me from a lot of scams I'm too poor for 😂

[–] FuglyDuck 27 points 6 days ago (2 children)

He was always a shitbag.

He just had good PR, and most people never listened to the people countering it.

Now, he’s fired the PR… and he’s still a shit bag with his crazy on.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'll always remember how surprised most of us were when he turned out to be a shitbag while those kids in Thailand were stuck in a cave. I had no opinion on him until then.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I had tingly sensors going off but I naively assumed that fiasco would have been a death knell for him. This timeline sucks

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Some people never heard. I see a lot of people accusing people of not listening, but for the first couple years I heard anything about Musk I didn't hear any negatives. I wasn't looking him up, I'd just see a joke or meme, and since I didn't care much I probably didn't even go into comments. I think the first real negative news I heard was the sub pedo incident.

Maybe the Model E Model 3 S3X thing, but at worst I considered that an immature joke and didn't think much further about it, nor heard anyway say anything seriously negative about it.

[–] swag_money 27 points 6 days ago

"i bought this before elons insanity was public knowledge" ftfy

[–] Horsey 24 points 6 days ago (9 children)

No Android Auto+CarPlay is enough for me to never buy one lol. I’m never paying a subscription on a car lmao.

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[–] CharlesDarwin 1 points 3 days ago

Sell the fucking car if you can.

[–] rational_lib 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

Let's be real - all the car companies are owned by terrible people. If it's not Elon, it's some other soulless capitalist who pushed subsidies and lower efficiency standards for mega trucks that speed up global warming just as we're supposed to be slowing it down.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago

This is often my thought process when I have to interact with a big company. If I never did any business that would benefit a bad person, I’d basically have to live in a hut in the woods.

However, there are degrees. For years I was sure a model 3 performance would be the perfect next car for me, but now like many people I don’t think I’ll ever be able to stomach owning a Tesla. The Musk connection has blown way past being embarrassing, and now buying one of those damn cars feels like supporting or at least accepting some horrible parts of humanity.

It’s not even a matter of hurting Musk’s bottom line, even though that would be nice. It’s about self respect, trying to put positivity into people’s lives instead of negativity, and being able to look my kid in the eye when he’s an adult and remembers the fucked up years we’re about to endure. I want absolutely zero to do with normalizing fascism and bigotry, even when it comes to something so mundane as the logo on my car.

[–] Horsey 13 points 6 days ago

This ^^

All the CEOs are assholes. The American car companies should’ve collapsed, but instead took a bailout and wasted it. The American consumer benefited basically nothing from the bailout.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah, not all people who do bad things are equal. I can't think of many worse people in this world than Elon, and his husband Donald Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Or just sell them. But let's keep driving the free advertisements for a fascist dipshit, because we have a bumper sticker that goes "Haha, I totally didn't give money to the man who helped Trump win!!"

[–] RawrGuthlaf 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So where do you think that car goes when you sell it?

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[–] Gammelfisch 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Kudos to the Tesla owners who realize Musk is still an apartheid supporting turd. My colleague has a Tesla and his wife told him to dump the car.

[–] Ghostalmedia 8 points 6 days ago (15 children)

Problem is, most Telsa owners still have cars that have many good years left in them, and buying a different new or pre owned EV will be a hit to the pocket book. Especially after selling a rapidly depreciating Tesla.

I get why people are saying “fuck it, I’ll put a sticker on it.” Selling and buying a new car isn’t a thing many people want to do at the drop of a hat. I

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[–] Pulsar 10 points 6 days ago

Here is my favorite.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I'd have traded it in by now. Embarrassing to own and mostly junk.

[–] soylentgreenenergy 7 points 6 days ago

Elon owns and profits off Tesla, but otherwise, he's not very special. He's rich, and he can win games of marketing chess, and intellectual property theft. I can never help but point out at al opportunities that he's not much of an inventor, but no wonder he's buddy buddy with Trump, they both are great at claiming credit for things they had little to do with. Its also fascinating, every venture Elon is in, is actually pro-leftist pro-environmentalist pro-deepstate, yet he's hated by leftists for 'being mean', and loved by Trumpsters despite his true intentions being to help the government take freedoms away. That dynamic, is worthy of study in my opinion.

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