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It takes some longer than others to wake up (lemmy.world)
submitted 12 hours ago by return2ozma to c/politicalmemes
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[–] blanketswithsmallpox 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

So, how do we get people who fear socialism to vote for a socialist that inspires blue voters to vote or steals enough working class votes to get elected enough rather than slowly spiral into fascism?

  1. Keep fascism in check for the next two years and hopefully win mid terms so we get the House and Senate again.
  2. Starting prepping a 50 year old straight white man for presidency.
  3. Somehow convince people that the firehouse of falsehoods isn't worth their time.
  4. Keep it up another two years after to get the presidency back.
  5. Kill the filibuster.
  6. Stack the supreme Court after all the Republican extremist ones die.
  7. Fund public education in a way that isn't based on local property values.
  8. Bring back the fairness doctrine.
  9. Stave off NatCs for another 20 years and hopefully profit?
[–] inv3r510n 13 points 3 hours ago

I fucking HATE these people. Can we throw this piece of shit into a volcano?

[–] affiliate 25 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

i hope that one day people stop caring about what david brooks has to say

[–] Etterra 5 points 3 hours ago

I never started. He's on the official Council of Daves shit list.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 hours ago

If Sanders did win the nomination Brooks would go right back to fear mongering though. He's using him as a cudgel because he has a beef with the Democratic party and Sanders is now too old to run again. He's just a dumbass.

And he tells the stupidest lies. https://newrepublic.com/post/175705/david-brooks-78-airport-meal-fact-check

[–] [email protected] 69 points 11 hours ago

He is not a liberal, he's the end of liberalism.

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[–] pjwestin 53 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Watching David Brooks, of all people, develop more introspection and self-awareness than the entire Democratic party leadership has been a real trip.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Don't assume that he actually developed any self-awareness. I'm sure he takes no responsibility for the horrible columns he's written over the past few decades. To him, the facts on the ground changed, and certainly he never got anything wrong.

[–] pjwestin 1 points 2 hours ago

Well, I doubt he blames himself for anything that's occurred, and I certainly don't think he's going to become a socialist or anything like that. He does seem aware that 40 years of free market capitalism without any pushback from a real progressive party on behalf of the working class has created the conditions necessary for Trump, and that's more self-awareness than I've seen from Nancy Pelosi. That being said, I'm sure this newfound progressive streak will boil down to, "let's raise the federal minimum wage so we can get back to capitalism as usual."

[–] WaxedWookie 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I know nothing of his work, but my immediate assumption is that he's just a contrarian asshole that has no actual principles.

In media (as in politics), this kind of thing is almost always a product of cynical expediency rather than sincere introspection.

[–] pjwestin 6 points 3 hours ago

He's an old-school Regan conservative who writes a column for the New York Times. He also does a weekly PBS news segment; it used to be with this even older liberal named David Brooks, but he retired, and now it's with a young liberal who's so moderate they barely even disagree.

Funny enough, I actually don't think he's being contrarian. He was on PBS Newshour for their election night coverage, and he seemed shook. The next day, he commented on Twitter something to the effect of, "maybe the answer is that the Democrats need to pick someone that makes people like me unconformable." I think he's watched his economic outlook completely win American politics over the last 40 years, only to find the prize at the end was fascism.

[–] seaQueue 13 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

I like how he completely misses the point even now. We don't need to end liberalism but we absolutely do need to tax and regulate.

[–] inv3r510n 3 points 3 hours ago

No. Miss me with this lib shit. Liberalism has GOT TO GO. Liberalism is just the lapdog of fascism and always has been.

[–] Viking_Hippie 28 points 10 hours ago

We don't need to end liberalism but we absolutely do need to tax and regulate.

Definitely need both. Neoliberalism is a center right to right wing ideology that inherently favors moneyed interests and the status quo over workers and progress.

Having it as the leftmost ideology of only two political parties with real influence is lunacy.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Taxes and regulations are bandaid solution to capitalism.

As we’ve all seen, those with wealth use it to hide it away from taxes and to bribe for relaxed regulations or regulations to stop competitors appearing.

Liberalism and any other capitalist model need to go.

[–] billiam0202 8 points 10 hours ago

Look, I'm not going to defend capitalism, but

As we’ve all seen, those with wealth use it to hide it away from taxes and to bribe for relaxed regulations or regulations to stop competitors appearing.

Is not a problem inherent to capitalism. All of that stems from human greed, which you're going to have no matter what economic system you try to implement. The solution is to have actual enforcement of your regulatory guardrails.

[–] seaQueue 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't see capitalism ending in the US during our lifetimes so I'll take any improvement I can get

[–] return2ozma 6 points 10 hours ago

Have you seen this?

Why It's So Hard To Imagine Life After Capitalism

https://youtu.be/PaASqPnpq5Y

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 hours ago

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