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[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

For salaried workers.

Salary workers almost never get paid overtime and generally make more "per hour" than the standard hourly wage already anyway. Also, you literally cannot be forced to work more than 40 hrs a week when salaried. This is also the terms that are agreed to by both parties (usually by contract) before employment begins. Kind sounds to me like if you want to be a salaried employee AND make overtime, that you should negotiate that before beginning employment.

I'm not getting the argument here.

[–] londos 15 points 2 hours ago

You definitely can be fired for not working more than 40 hours in any state with at-will employment. Or rather, you can be fired for no reason at all, and they don't need to say it was because of the hours.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If the US is not a third-world country, then why do they do so many third-world country things?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

A bit more of a de-developing country

And no, I don't have a stutter

[–] wildcardology 83 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

How is it that a third world country Ike mine pays overtime pay to all employees who work beyond the standard 8 hour work day. 25% of the hourly rate is added to the hours of overtime, plus a night differential rate if you work past 11 pm. +30% if you have to do work during a holiday.

Not being paid for overtime work is very slavery to me.

The reasoning of the judge is because the companies will have to pay billions in OT pay. Fuck them.

[–] Wogi 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

We do get overtime pay, this rule was for a very specific segment of workers who were exempt. Being salaried and making under a certain amount. Hourly employees get time and a half for every hour past 40 in a week, federally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The salaried exception floor hasn't been raised in forever, it needs to go way up.

[–] Wogi 1 points 2 hours ago

It does!

It's worth noting that the minimum wage in Texas is the same as the federal minimum wage. Which is now, not enough to buy a meal at McDonald's after an hour.

[–] slingstone 18 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

What country? Do you offer political asylum to people fleeing dictatorial regimes?

[–] wildcardology 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Well we currently have the son of the former dictator as a president so there's that.

[–] slingstone 3 points 20 hours ago

Does he seem like he's going to do better than his dad?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like the Philippines.

[–] slingstone 3 points 17 hours ago

I assumed it was, but since the poster didn't mention it, I figured they might have their reasons to be vague.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

How? Your government is probably not as captured.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

B-b-b-but Democrats aren't aligned with the working class!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

I mean this would only have applied to salaried employees earning $20/hr or less which I can't even imagine what type of field that covers since most hourly jobs earn more than that these days.

This is akin to the "pardoning marijuana possession convictions" thing where it didn't apply to a single person in federal custody and only benefitted 3,000 people (with past convictions) in the entire nation.

This is basically virtue signaling and/or table scraps for us peasants.

[–] capital 13 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

And a judge even blocked that. What do we think would happen to more substantial changes?

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[–] enbyecho 17 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

But you don't actually know how many people this would have applied to... you just assume, right?

Edit: It's right in the article: "The rule would have extended to approximately four million American workers, guaranteeing them overtime pay."

[–] chiliedogg 3 points 16 hours ago

In January, it was going to jump to a minimum salary of 59k to be exempt.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago (12 children)

Not sure why you would expect the federal government to be able to do anything with state charges.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago

I hope everyone joined whatever gains unions had the last four years

[–] meco03211 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Obviously a little late for this administration, but could the next liberal admin try beating them to the punch on this? Are there no liberal friendly judicial districts? Have one of those file a weak lawsuit to uphold the law. Then that could at least be referenced when they attack in a red area.

[–] orclev 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The problem is there aren't enough actual liberals left in the DNC. The majority of the DNC is more than happy to screw over workers to the benefit of corporations. What resistance they provide is mostly performative, as their real priorities are dictated by what the large corporate donors are paying for.

[–] njm1314 7 points 23 hours ago

Screwing over workers to the benefit of Corporations is what Liberals are for. You mean there's no leftist left in the DNC.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

No, the problem is there are too many liberals in the party and not enough leftists. Liberals love them some anti-worker pro-corporate welfare and other right-wing policies that only benefit the rich.

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[–] Maggoty 10 points 23 hours ago

The problem is SCOTUS. Anything reaching them is going to come down on the Republican side.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

You're assuming there will be elections again

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it's going back to trump's threshold too. if you were enjoying OT with a 37K salary, congratulations, you're exempt now

[–] [email protected] 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine being a salaried employee and only earning $16.80 per hour, assuming 40 hours a week. I wonder what type of work this even covers as that's slightly above minimum wage here, and it requires you to work all those extra hours for free.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

about the whole "a work week is 40 hours" thing too...

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's always texas, it's never not texas, is texas just trying to become mississipi? Because it's very quickly headed there.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

People file their cases in this district specifically because it has a bunch of conservative friendly judges.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

Florida man and Texas Judge are the dynamic duo we didn't really need.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

I wish we could just kick Texas out at this point.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Best get used to it. It’s going to be tough for a while.

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