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Summary

Steve Lee Hayes, a 65-year-old American tourist, was arrested in Tokyo for allegedly carving family members’ names into a wooden Torii gate at the Meiji Shrine.

Surveillance footage led police to his hotel, where he was detained.

Hayes admitted to the act, which could result in up to three years in prison or a fine of 300,000 yen ($1,900).

The Meiji Shrine, a significant Shinto site, was built in 1920 to honor Emperor Meiji and Empress Shoken. The incident occurs amid a surge in international tourism to Japan this year.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

Sounds like a great idea, maybe he should twerk in front of those South Korean "Woman of Comfort" statues next. /s

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago

What an arsehole.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please 23 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

He’s cooked.

For the unaware, Japan has like a 99.9% conviction rate after arrests, because they basically don’t arrest unless they’re absolutely 100% positive that they can secure a conviction. The suspect also has no right to an attorney, and police abuse is common; Even if you’re innocent, they’ll just keep you in an interrogation room without any food or water for 72 hours until you “confess”. They’ll literally just rotate cops into the interrogation room, without giving you a break for food or sleep.

And Japanese prisons are some of the strictest. You’re basically expected to remain silent, and every moment of your time is accounted for. You get like 20 minutes to eat each meal (in your cell) and then like 30 minutes of “recreational” time outside, where you’re expected to kneel in place in an empty courtyard. Moving to and from your cell is akin to old elementary schools where everyone would have to line up single file and silently walk from one place to the next while following the teacher. And that’s pretty much your daily routine for the entire time you’re in. You sit in your cell, slam down what little food you get, silently walk to the courtyard, silently kneel for 30 minutes, silently walk back to your cell, and slam down dinner before bedtime. Any deviation is dealt with swiftly and violently by the guards.

Japan has a very skewed idea of criminal justice, because the prevailing attitude is that if you’re in prison, you must have done something to deserve it. It’s sort of a cyclical problem, where their insanely high conviction rate means that the public already assumes suspects are guilty before they have even been convicted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm really hoping this does change in Japan once the boomers fall out of power because younger Japanese people are also learning about the world online

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago

"Guilty unless proven innocent" is literally the law in Japan

the Phoenix Wright series was literally made as a scathing critique of the Japanese Legal System, luckily the absurdity appeals to the West even if the commentary doesn't.

[–] indomara 4 points 6 hours ago

Hmm, I happened across this video last week of a womens prison, and it doesn't seem quite so grim...

https://youtu.be/p8paAewtl0c

I also saw another video in a mens prison a while ago that showed them cooking all the meals, and it looked strict, but not so bad as you describe.

Of course these videos are propaganda...

Still, I would take a Japanese prison before an American one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Thanks for telling the truth, Alot of media like to show japan as a good country,like they wanna show certain countries as bad and good(I already knew some of the stuff but not everything mentione).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well, it's kind of an open secret that you're not allowed to say anything bad about any non-white majority country that isn't China or North Korea on American Television.

Not saying that's a bad thing, in fact before that little "rule" was in place we got shit like "Tokyo Jokey-o" so I full understand the bias in favor of only focusing on the positives.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Ohh they got a rule for it, that would make sense.

[–] JigglySackles 24 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Asshole should have his passport revoked on top of being jailed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

He likely was, it's very easy to lose your passport and be thrown to the wolves when you misbehave in another country, especially in Japan and South Korea. They do not fuck around.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

As he should be, what an absolute moron.

[–] nutsack 15 points 1 day ago

what a stupid fuck

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh. I thought maybe he ate a banana on an offering plate or something culturally ambiguous

He fucking carved his name into wood? That's never OK anywhere

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago
[–] FinishingDutch 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That’s a slap on the wrist if they only impose the fine. That should be a five year jail sentence at least.

You cannot act like a dick like this in other countries. Defacing a religious site no less.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] return2ozma 2 points 7 hours ago

Re-open Robot Restaurant and force him to sit there watching it 24/7 for 3 years.

[–] WindyRebel 11 points 22 hours ago

Looks like the Temu version of Bannon.

[–] clutchtwopointzero 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why people want to carve names on stuff... It's the same people who write their names on bathroom doors

[–] captainlezbian 7 points 1 day ago

No idea but it’s been going on for millennia

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Bathrooms are like the only place this is OK...but do it in sharpie so it can easily be removed

[–] A_Filthy_Weeaboo 50 points 1 day ago

Like how dumb do you have to be?

... Checks timeline. Oh thats the norm...

[–] [email protected] 99 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Put that fuckin Boomer in prison for 3 years.

[–] JigglySackles 7 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Bordering on Gen X but anyone this disrespectful is still a boomer. They need to jail him. A fine is too easy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago

Genx is 1965 – 1980.

At 65, he's 6 years too old to be Gen X.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I was under the impression that gen x started in the mid 60s, whereas 65 would put this guy at 1959ish

[–] JigglySackles 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I said bordering for a few reasons. One it is close, i.e. bordering at the change. Two being that I know some people right at that near generational change (same age actually) act way less boomer and more gen x. People aren't hard lines in the sand like dates. So people born around that generational shift can swing either way. Way more thought than I wanted to explain about an offhanded comment, but there you go.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Lol all good man. It certainly seems like everyone has their own interpretation of generational cutoffs, but you make a good point of how people born near the cusps can swing either way in terms of identity.

[–] JigglySackles 3 points 18 hours ago

I feel it myself honestly. I'm in the Xennial range. I don't fit standard Millennial tropes generally, but also don't really fit Gen X either. Just somewhere in limbo lol

[–] [email protected] 130 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Prison would be most appropriate.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good, americans act like this and they get the consequences they deserve

[–] WhyFlip 13 points 1 day ago

If anyone acts like this they get the consequences.

[–] villainy 85 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I could have guessed he was over 60 because he wasn't live streaming the whole thing. Just an old school asshole, not an influencer.

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