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[–] ccunning 112 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Honestly even putting this nonsense in a headline is negligent.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They're complicit and they know it. Its better for profits this way.

[–] febra 16 points 3 months ago

It's called the 24/7 news cycle. They need to keep pumping out trash like this otherwise they might not improve their profit margins.

[–] drunkpostdisaster 1 points 3 months ago

The6 are going to run the country. We need ti known what these people think

[–] fukhueson 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe we shouldn't inform the population about this... And any other of Trump's plans since they're so obviously bad they don't need explanation?

Simply irresponsible to not do so, especially after an election where so much of the population were convinced Trump would be better for the economy. If anything we should be working harder to inform people, not looking for reasons to avoid these topics. What if someone saw that RFK would be doing this and saw no counter to his misinformation? Because it's below someone to even discuss?

It's a duty to inform people, and I'm glad poynter is taking the initiative.

[–] RedAggroBest 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To support this counterpoint, this is exactly the headline my moron coworker would click and MAYBE get corrected in his stance on fluoridated water

[–] fukhueson -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Thank you. The number of up votes the comments get saying that we shouldn't even bother discussing this are staggering.

[–] hyperreal 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah that's crazy to me. Of course it's sad that we are at this point but to suggest that the article shouldn't be written is just silly. What's the alternative? Just isolate ourselves in our little echo chambers? People aren't as intelligent as we'd like to believe. Moreover, confirmation bias and selective reasoning are strong behavioral forces. There has to be some middle ground between grossly unprofessional profit seeking and state run media.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pretending there are two sides to arguments like this is a cause of brain rot. The middle ground between truth and a lie is a lie.

[–] hyperreal 1 points 2 months ago

Sheesh. How would the uniformed learn anything in your version of the world? People aren't born with perfect omniscience. Skepticism and uncertainty exist, plain and simple. Fill in information asymmetries with quality information. That's all that can be done.

[–] fukhueson 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yea I mean, Poynter is a non-profit fact checking and journalism institute... They launched IFCN. Square all those accusations you're seeing around here for me :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Don't feed the trolls.

Organize, resist, never submit unless forced at gunpoint.

[–] FlyingSquid 83 points 3 months ago (5 children)

You think this is stupid?

RFK Jr. also thinks cell phones and 5G cause cancer. So get ready for an America with slow cell data and phones you're not allowed to put up to your ear.

I heard him tell a bullshit story about how he has hundreds of clients with grapefruit-sized tumors behind their ears from using cell phones. You know how you see all those people walking around with giant tumors behind their ears? Me neither.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That’s just cause you don’t get invited to the whale juice parties

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can get all the whale juice I want in the ocean anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But I bet you can’t get bear cub corpses in the ocean, can you?

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 3 months ago

Not with that attitude.

[–] pivot_root 3 points 3 months ago

So get ready for an America with slow cell data and phones you're not allowed to put up to your ear.

Hello EDGE, my old friend...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

The anti-5G propaganda was funded by manufacturers who weren't ready to upgrade, to buy some time.

RFK Jr is a con artist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

To be fair, people with tumors behind their ears will likely hide it to avoid assholes staring/taking pictures. I don't see many cancer patients attending chemotherapy either because they are wearing hats/wigs.

Still, shouldn't they get cancer on their hands instead? That's the closest body part to your phone at any time on average, isn't it?

[–] fukhueson -1 points 3 months ago

But don't report on those things, because it's irresponsible to do that. It's simply to fill the 24/7 news cycle, not to inform anyone (despite this being a fact checking institute). /s

What is going on in this sub?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You can’t give a platform or a stage to these people. You’re disrespecting your own journalism when you do.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They don't even put the answer in the title, this is peak irresponsible journalism.

[–] pivot_root 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

this is peak clickbait and irresponsible journalism.

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Well, yes. If you want to correct people being lied to by clickbait, the best way to reach them with the truth is also going to be clickbait. You're not the target audience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

And any question in a headline can be answered with no. Otherwise it would be a statement.

[–] fukhueson -2 points 3 months ago

Better let the misinformation go uncountered, right?

[–] Rapidcreek 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Answer is No. This is junk science

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

For any article with a question as a headline, the answer is no.

[–] satanmat 2 points 3 months ago

Yes but my cousin’s friend’s daughter once prayed about it and it was true… so like , er, CHECKING MATE… er ? Right?

[–] littlewonder 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Every time I see a question in a news headline, I just answer it with "no." in my head and move on. 90% of the time it's the same answer the article arrives at and the other 10% of the time, I'll see a real headline about it from other sources anyway--with the actual lede in the title.

[–] fukhueson 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It might be beneficial for some to understand the "what" and "why" behind the "no," no?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but why not just lead with a negative assertion instead of implying that there's an open question? The question implies that there is controversy, even when none exists.

Fact Checking RFK Jr's False Claims About Fluoride

Would be a perfectly acceptable headline.

[–] fukhueson 1 points 3 months ago

The title poses the claim in question from a neutral standpoint, and presents it's fact checking case in the article. I don't agree with the idea that a controversy is implied simply by doing that, or that there is an open question implied either. That is not apparent to me whatsoever, and I think this is a personal opinion rather than anything concrete. By reading the article, that is confirmed, and the reader also gains a lot of additional information on the matter.

[–] infectoid 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not American but I feel like at this point I’d get a four year supply of popcorn and try to encourage the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen.

Eg. Hulk Hogan should be head of the EPA. Start a campaign and mock outrage when trump is silent on the matter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I'd start asking for a ban in vaccines and to make tinfoil hats mandatory to protect your brain from the microwaves of he deep state that want to control your mind.

[–] meco03211 2 points 3 months ago

Why not hulk head up the DHS? Department of Hulkland Security!

[–] ME5SENGER_24 5 points 3 months ago

The guy had worms in his brain! IQ loss is like second nature to him

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago