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Lemmy Shitpost

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Welcome to Lemmy Shitpost. Here you can shitpost to your hearts content.

Anything and everything goes. Memes, Jokes, Vents and Banter. Though we still have to comply with lemmy.world instance rules. So behave!


Rules:

1. Be Respectful


Refrain from using harmful language pertaining to a protected characteristic: e.g. race, gender, sexuality, disability or religion.

Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.

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2. No Illegal Content


Content that violates the law. Any post/comment found to be in breach of common law will be removed and given to the authorities if required.

That means:

-No promoting violence/threats against any individuals

-No CSA content or Revenge Porn

-No sharing private/personal information (Doxxing)

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3. No Spam


Posting the same post, no matter the intent is against the rules.

-If you have posted content, please refrain from re-posting said content within this community.

-Do not spam posts with intent to harass, annoy, bully, advertise, scam or harm this community.

-No posting Scams/Advertisements/Phishing Links/IP Grabbers

-No Bots, Bots will be banned from the community.

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4. No Porn/ExplicitContent


-Do not post explicit content. Lemmy.World is not the instance for NSFW content.

-Do not post Gore or Shock Content.

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5. No Enciting Harassment,Brigading, Doxxing or Witch Hunts


-Do not Brigade other Communities

-No calls to action against other communities/users within Lemmy or outside of Lemmy.

-No Witch Hunts against users/communities.

-No content that harasses members within or outside of the community.

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6. NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.


-Content that is NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.

-Content that might be distressing should be kept behind NSFW tags.

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If you see content that is a breach of the rules, please flag and report the comment and a moderator will take action where they can.


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4.Lemmy Be Wholesome

5.No Stupid Questions

6.You Should Know

7.Comedy Heaven

8.Credible Defense

9.Ten Forward

10.LinuxMemes (Linux themed memes)


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[–] [email protected] 79 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Guess I'll donate to myself

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

I'll chip in, and buy a beer for myself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Buy that pet siberian wallaby you always wanted, king.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just build a factory to automatically donate to yourself, something tells me you'd be good at that

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah, thanks for noticing my domain name :D However I have literally never played gregtech before, I purchased this domain name without checking whether "gregtech" it's used by any other projects.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Oh that's a funny coincidence

[–] wreckedcarzz 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey there, it's me, your instance

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My admin flat out refuses to add any donation options, citing he has enough money to maintain the instance as a hobby project. Nice!

[–] frankenswine 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Its all public anyways. Did you think you had privacy posting to a public forum?

[–] frankenswine 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

you miss the point: instance owners have quite a lot more information on their user's activities than what's public.

or would you argue that reddit does not aggregate data because it's all public?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

instance owners have quite a lot more information on their user’s activities

Not really. Only thing additional that could be identified is browsing patterns while on the site itself. I don't think it's that valuable. You likely already gave up what you're likely to see by commenting in communities. That's going to be tracked best through a proxy or something, not lemmy itself. And can even be tracked externally through other means. Ex: This post has a tracking image on it and because you need to connect to me to load it I now see everyone that had loaded this comment. So this can be done externally without even being an instance owner. Click view source to see it at the end of the post.

Votes are federated, kbin instances see them as "likes" publicly. Messages are federated, sent in clear text. And posts that are loaded can be tracked via other means... Think of sites that display ads... They do this exact thing and collect information by the boatload because they can inject on every page that shows an ad. Without needing to be an admin on the site itself.

Edit: In theory someone could canvas/comment on every post with a bot and embed tracking images everywhere. Rotate usernames doing it from different servers and rotate through domains that are all cnamed back to the same tracking node and you could attack the whole fediverse with this type of tracking. Probably already being done... But it would be visible in that we have the ability to check source of each comment. But who the hell is going to take the time to do that?

Edit2: Here's example of what was collected with that embedded image. Keep in mind that this type of tracking can happen with REAL images as well, making it impossible to track. And I'm specifically not tracking much of anything. But things like IP address used to access is on the backend. There's also Browser, OS, referrers... etc...

[–] frankenswine 2 points 2 days ago (5 children)

you are (still) missing my point - but i might be wrong as well (i am mot too familiar with ActivityPub).

my point is not that my public posts are in fact public and can be (and probably are) mined through unknown parties, but that instance owners have even more, probably more valuable info, like IP addresses from which not just geolocation but also wake times, device usage patterns and other gnarly stuff could be extracted, that could - together with other personalized surveillance info (like the usual adware stuff) - be aggregated to give a bigger picture.

just showing (as you did) that one can get some info about me through my (public) actions does not refute the point that instance owners have access to more, not-so-public information

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In a recent Lemmy version they added support for proxying images. So for people worried about this, see if you can find an instance (or set up your own) that does image proxying.

Before you ask, I'm not aware of any but I'm sure there are some.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that was 19.4. It's doesn't proxy everything unless explicitly set to. Just thumbnails I believe. But I could be wrong. And many instance owners would be allergic to that as it leaves them on the hook for storing content. For example... someone posts CSAM... a copy of that is now on your server. You get police raided and you're fucked.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/705e86eb4c0079d0775f0c1490968f1183095fcc/config/defaults.hjson#L51

Actually going over it briefly looks like it has a few available options for what it will cache...

I refuse to enable it myself for the above reason. I would venture 99% of instances out there would also refuse for liability and bandwidth costs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Certain (but not all) thumbnails have been sort of proxied for a while, but it's complicated. But for example if someone posts a link to some questionable content on imgur, your instance will have a copy of that cached (and never delete it, because... Lemmy reasons). The recent changes just mean you can now enable other images to be proxied, though this is disabled by default. This proxy has an age (a day or a week or whatever you set) and content is deleted if it hasn't been accessed in that timeframe - this is in contract to the normal Lemmy image stuff that I believe still stays forever unless that was fixed recenty.

And many instance owners would be allergic to that as it leaves them on the hook for storing content

This is already a risk whether via the existing thumbnail storage or via user uploads. It's a pretty common recommendation that you should never host a website like Lemmy on a home server, always use a VPS for this reason. Then make sure you understand your local laws as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is already a risk whether via the existing thumbnail storage

Not anymore. You can opt out of it for the most part.

# Leave images unchanged, don't generate any local thumbnails for post urls. Instead the the
# Opengraph image is directly returned as thumbnail
"None"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh I didn't realise this! I'll have to investigate more. Even if you want proxying, it makes way more sense to use the proxy image functionality that actually deletes the images after a period of time.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'm quite excited about it 😆

Edit: seems like it's been an option since 0.19.0!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

The instance has 200 users active in the last month. Not quite a trove :D

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Me a user: hello, heres some money Me the admin: hi, thanks 👍

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wow, your user is a cool person!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] GrammarPolice 3 points 2 days ago

Top 10 instances you'd never believe existed

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I'll be sure to buy myself something nice for Christmas.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago

nice to see so many other self hosters in this thread :D

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You hear that, federate.cc users? All 5 of you? 😉

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Assemble.jpg

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Can't. The Dude won't pass around a hat, but I do wonder if he counts it as advertising for his business and gets a tax break at least?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

[...] I do wonder if he counts it as advertising for his business [...]

Out of curiosity, what's the business?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not actually sure anymore, he had the domain of itjust.works for some kind of IT business, but now it just redirects to sh.itjust.works. That's odd.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe he’s selling our data? Alternatively he’s an altruist but not the GTA V kind of altruist but an actual one? Either way, seems like the best we can do to support him is post as much as we can, even if that means losing our jobs and partners. After all, we don’t need to donate money to him so we don’t actually need any

[–] Serinus 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Selling what data? It's already public.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

You need to upload fingerprints, iris scan and 3d scan of your feet, penis (if applicable) and nose internals (without socks) when registering. This is a requirement from the Uzbekistan's government

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

You can sell public data too

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm disabled and I can't work.

[–] Nuke_the_whales 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

DENTAL PLAN!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am teen and also don't have money(I donated 5€ to lemm.ee though). No need to worry you are already contributing to Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I mean, I talk about posts on lemmy with people I know.

Oh! here's another contribution to the lemmy federation that my instance is a part of. Be sure to label your posts and comments with the language they're written in.

[–] tomi000 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Dont forget to donate to (reputable) charities.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

tchncs has a patreon which I support.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oha isn't getting sh*t from me

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

Good question actually. Mostly because I'm broke.

[–] portuga 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Now really, how does one do that? No idea but I’d like to support the little I can. And what instance needs it most?

[–] Cris_Color 3 points 2 days ago

I'm not sure which instances might need it most, but the idea is mostly that you donate to the one that hosts your account, that way you're offsetting the operating costs they pay to host your posts, uploaded images, comments, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
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