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I genuinely do not know who the bad guys are. S lot of my leftist friends are against Israel, but from what I know Israel was attacked and is responding and trying to get their hostages back.

Enlighten me. Am I wrong? Why am I wrong?

And dumb it down for me, because apparently I'm an idiot.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

The working class in both nations. The people, divided and conquered.

[–] tupalos 6 points 4 hours ago

The volunteers that risk going to do stuff in either side. It’s crazy out there

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 hours ago

Israel are absolutely and undeniably the bad guys. To use an analogy, imagine a school bully who is stronger and gets the support of the teachers and principal of the school, and the bully beats up the smaller kid every day until they hit a breaking point and throws a punch back. A reasonable school would support the bullied kid, but in this case, the principal just gives the bully a gun and looks away.

Israel has been dehumanizing and oppressing the Palestinian people since it's inception and things have been getting worse. When October 7th happen, it was indeed horrible and many civilians got hurt, but Israel's response was so completely disproportionately mad that they are actively committing genocide, treating the list of warcrimes like a to-do list.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 hours ago

The humanitarian aide workers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Well obviously it's the Western powers that gave a bunch of displaced Jews land after WWII, despite no legitimate claim to the area, and then proceeded to keep meddling in Middle Eastern affairs so they could get cheap oil. And the biggest of those Western powers directly gives taxpayer money to war profiteers so there's a direct financial incentive to keep the genocide going.

Those are the goodest guys.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

The Zionist project was going full steam ahead prior to WWII. Zionists collaborated with Nazis to get Jewish people to emigrate or get deported to Palestine. And Holocaust survivors were often looked down on there are Jews that had not done the "right" thing of abandoning their homes to steal someone else's in Palestine. Zionists spread some of the most antisemitix things you have ever heard when it comes to this topic.

The backer of Zionism simply switched hands after WWII. Before it was the British, then it was the US.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago (9 children)

on a scale from 1 to 10 how serious are you in asking this, I ask because I am genuinly unsure if you are confused and unaware of what is happening, or if you are trying to start some shit

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[–] HurlingDurling 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The palestinian people. Sure, they have done some horrible things but it's been mostly out of desperation for decades of abuse from Israel, who are actively invading their country.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 14 hours ago

Yeah the conflict started way before october the 7th.

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