How alarmed? holy fuck, there no level below running around with ones hair on fire that would be appropriate. if Trump wins again, it is the end of all things. This is not fucking hyperbole.
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He will purposefully burn so much coal there will be no stopping a wet bulb planet.
Dude, I'm scared in a way that only someone who has a history degree can be scared. We are currently in the lead-up to the next global conflict, and this time, we have the capability to destroy ourselves.
I'm seeing what is going on now, and it's the same thing that was happening in Europe in the 1920s. I've been saying that January 6 was the GOP's Munich Beer Hall Putsch. We're gonna find out in a couple weeks if we're gonna let the new fascists gain power like Hitler did in the 30s.
I've no history degree but this all smells very similar to the late Roman Republic to me. The cult of personality, purges of those not loyal to the right person etc etc.
With the technology at our disposal, the possibilities are unbounded.
No matter what happens, there will be cuts to things like Medicaid and the ACA and folks like me can kiss goodbye access to my $18.5k+ per month cancer medication. The LGBT community will be vilified and being LGBT will be turned into a crime.
People should be fucking alarmed because people will die, just because they're behind the invisible wall of poverty or a marginalized community doesn't make it any less damning or horrific. America is just used to shrugging and moving on when the poor and marginalized die.
It's systemic murder and it can and will happen under a Trump (in actuality Vance, once he 25th amendments Trumps ass) Presidency. Project 2025 isn't a joke, when people tell you who they are, believe them the first time.
Project 2025 points to changes on facistic levels, say no more.
This what gets me about modern American politics or even the American population in general
They are having a never ending debate about whether or not they want a normal average politician .... or a deranged elderly sociopath who is obviously losing his mental abilities and has fascist leanings.
I'm not alarmed about Turnip .... I'm alarmed of the general American culture that has normalized all this.
Because if they will allow all the crap that is happening now .... what will they allow next?
This. It's not an election, it's what's next. Is every American election just going to be "Outright Fascism vs. Traditional Conservatism?" Is it always going to be this unrelenting and horrible from now on? Trump losing would be a good thing, but it doesn't fix the problem.
The way I see it, the problems are that we've lost trust in the concept of society. We don't trust expertise. That's not even a right vs left thing. I know it's unpopular to "both sides" these things, but in truth it's not even a matter of sides: Everyone of all political stripes just disregards what they don't want to hear.
At the same time, truth is getting harder to discern anyway. Botnets distributing and promoting misinformation, deepfakes making lies look real, and hordes of the financially incentivized pushing whatever their audience wants to hear over what is real.
Anyway, I try to be optimistic but I just don't see how things will actually get better.
If you are not a diehard MAGA you should be terrified and voting like your life depends on it. Even moderate Republicans are going to be targeted for not being MAGA enough.
Well, seeing as i work for the government, I expect I'll be fired if not outright hunted down.
I don't think I'll live through another Trump term, so I'm probably going to check out if it happens.
Never kill yourself for something that's somebody else's fault.
Go to Canada or Australia before you pull that switch
Most people don't have the resources necessary to move up the street, let alone to another country. And both Canada and Austrailia are significantly harder to legally emigrate to than the US. The people who have the resources to do that on a whim are probably the ones who have to worry about Trump's agenda the least.
I would if that was an easy option but as of yet no one seems to be taking in US "refugees" nor do they have much sympathy for nor want them.
I'm past my prime with cancer. They just view me as a foreign drain on their system. I don't pass the basic immigration demands because I am poor and don't bring anything to the table economically.
I guess everyone with money and ability to move can find comfort in leaving folks like me behind to die.
Yeah, the whole no public charges thing I think all countries have will lead to a lot of people with disabilities dying when Medicaid is cut off, if not a repeat of Aktion T4 in the USA. I don't see a good future for anyone disabled in the USA. The situation is grim, at best.
You think Canada will be safe when shit hits the fan in the US? Because I don't.
its expensive. ive checked.
ask them politely if you can just step in to use the bathroom, be in and out in a sec. (then stay)
Yes
Trump wants to:
Imprison opponents:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/09/us/politics/trump-prison-threats-opponents.html
Disband media he disagrees with:
https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/11/politics/donald-trump-media-tweet/index.html
Revoke the citizenship of US citizens:
https://www.acslaw.org/expertforum/trump-administration-seeks-to-strip-more-people-of-citizenship/
Build internment camps:
Invade Mexico:
Don't wait until it happens to acquire firearms and training. Start building up communities and networks of like minded neighbors to look out for each other.
Maximum. It would be like book burning, but with people.
Remember the red wave hype? This is the same. Still, do the work and vote but don’t waste your time prepping for nothing. Polls are broken. The GOP is in its death spiral not a resurgence.
I wish I had your optimism.
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