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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

So you admit that emulation is the best way to preserve old forms of interactive media?

[–] JTskulk 69 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Eww extremely embarrassing that they used Windows.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Getting a personality by dressing their PC exactly the same as anyone else? Sounds right!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago

i never disputed that??

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[–] [email protected] 259 points 2 days ago (49 children)

You see...

It's okay when THEY do it.

It's not okay when YOU do it.

That's how they function.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Well yeah, as the owners they have the exclusive right to determine what's okay. They're just following the rules as they've been laid out by centuries of corporate lobbying for more exploitable copyright laws. Those are what we need to focus on if we want more fair use of intellectual property that the rights holder has already sufficiently profited from - the thing that such protections were initially meant to ensure to a much more reasonable extent.

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[–] GreenKnight23 62 points 2 days ago (1 children)

pull a WordPress and force a TOS in the license to say you cannot be affiliated with Nintendo in any way in order to use this software.

they want to emulate their hardware? then they can build their own emulator.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I believe they do have their own emulator. It logically would be what powers the Nintendo arcade

[–] GreenKnight23 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

folks thought the same for the Genesis and Atari flashbacks but some tinkering found they were using FOSS emulation. IMO FOSS projects should start charging companies that use their products dependent on scale.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

The thing is, we know Nintendo does have in-house developed emulators that they used for Virtual Console and then NSO and the Classic Edition.

It's fairly likely they didn't take the effort to port those to PC for the museum, but still.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I assume most FOSS emulators have a non-commercial license, so if a company is using it to make money they are already violating the law, but who is gonna go after Nintendo for that?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If they had that, they'd no longer be FOSS and instead "source available" and half the community will raise the pitch forks. Best FOSS licence to protect against this sort of thing is AGPL because it's toxic for corporations. But even that could be used in this case if they had the source on the same computer imo (IANAL though)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Good to know, ty!

[–] GreenKnight23 1 points 1 day ago

I would because it's an open and shut case no judge would deny.

and you would be incorrect, most GPL/fossy licensing doesn't specifically prohibit commercial use.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 days ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (16 children)

Just for the record, this is exactly what any museum would do, because they're not going to actually run anything on the original hardware. Those systems are part of the collection, and it behooves a museum to not put any wear on them.

Also because emulators can be managed remotely.

[–] Ultraviolet 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In other words, emulators are crucial for game preservation? This shows that Nintendo knows that, and when they say it's not the case, they're not simply wrong, they're lying.

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[–] ampersandrew 62 points 2 days ago

Any other museum wouldn't be a hypocrite for doing so.

[–] finitebanjo 28 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This is a "Museum" run by Nintendo in Japan. Meaning they could have used or even created more original hardware to run the titles, but instead cut costs by using the same Emulators that they're hoping to take down.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (17 children)

That is highly depending on the type of Museum. Many Videogame and Computer Museums (at least in Germany) are showing the real Hardware running, some are even allowing the visitors to use and play at the old machines. And yes, they are often very used to repairing the hardware too.

I would expect from Nintendo that they would show and use real hardware in their museum, and not some emulators. Because I can see the games on an emulator at home (for example using my Switch Online or my SNES Classic), I don't need a museum for that experience.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I would not be at all surprised if the Switch NES and SNES emulators are running an open source emulator that they've tried to shut down.

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[–] RizzRustbolt 3 points 1 day ago

It would be pretty cool if they were using Higan.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 days ago (13 children)

I mean...

All of those mini consoles (NES mini, SNES mini) are already SOCs with an emulator.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Nintendo: Emulation is illegal, criminal, and you should never ever do it. If you do, we will sue your ass, send the Pinks, and then shit fury on you!!!

Also Nintendo:


Needless to say, I will not be buying an alarm clock today.

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[–] Fedizen 23 points 2 days ago (5 children)

if its under GPL couldn't they be forced to disclose the source code?

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