'Kaos' Canceled After One Season at Netflix : television

[–] givesomefucks 43 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What the fuck...

It was pretty popular and ended on a giant cliffhanger.

I dont get why streaming services sink so much money on these huge shows that they own, then cancel a month after they first air.

They need to start committing to entire arcs, give it 2 to 3 seasons with a good ending and it's a show only that service will have forever.

Now even if new people watch the only season, they'll get to the cliffhanger, find out it's cancelled, and be less likely to try the next new Netflix show as soon as it comes out, which is a death spiral because more shows will get cancelled this fast.

They're obsessed with short term profits because that's what stockholders want, but that doesn't make the content consumers work, so they have to keep raising prices so the stock always increases until one day it just dies.

[–] breadsmasher 3 points 2 months ago

less likely to try the next new netflix show

I admire your optimism

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My wife and I are halfway through the season, now series. Should I even bother watching the back half?

[–] givesomefucks 6 points 2 months ago

It's about the journey, not the destination. So yeah. I'd finish it

It's the typical Marvel cliffhanger where you get some answers and a decent ending, then like the very end sets up the next one that will never never exist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I think they've created this weird feedback loop for themselves too, where people are hesitant to start a new Netflix show because they don't want to watch one season, get invested and then get left on a cliffhanger (as is the case here), which is causing them to cancel things early because not enough people are watching immediately and so on.

TBH if they'd just show a bit more trust and invest in the talent they hire, and give new shows a couple of seasons to find their feet and establish themselves it'd help them tremendously in the long term I think, but they don't seem to be big on long term thinking.

[–] jpreston2005 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow, I heard it was decent and was going to try it out. Now, why even bother? WTF Netflix, this shit JUST came out. WTF are you even doing?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Big number was not big enough so it was cancelled

[–] jpreston2005 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When I'm deciding on a show to watch, I am far more likely to choose a show that has 3 seasons or more, because, like, why get invested in characters and their arcs, just to have them disappear before they complete their journey? Netflix is so short sighted with this. There's so much to watch these days, you don't have to re-watch anything, you can find original, quality shows to watch endlessly. And with that in mind, it means that while we may not pay attention to a show that just came out, that doesn't mean I won't revisit that same show after a few years and a few more seasons.

If a show is good enough to make, and you believe in it, then let your creators make more.

Shows these days don't need to be watched immediately to have an impact, and it's in the later years of a show, when you hold the streaming rights, that it brings in money. It's not even that their counting their chickens before they hatch, it's like they're counting their chickens, before the hen has even finished laying the eggs, and preemptively slaughtering the hen because it didn't lay enough eggs quick enough. Putting bean-counters, propped up by AI-fueled investment calculators, in charge of programming will only ever result in continued disappointment. To their bottom-line and to the art produced.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Well said. After hearing stories similar to this, I have avoided Netflix originals due to fear of show being canceled and ending on cliffhanger leaving many unanswered questions. It would bother me too much, better to not have seen it at all if there has not been a conclusion.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

That sucks. It was worth the watch and better than most trash on streaming.

[–] bugieman 12 points 2 months ago

I really like Kaos and this is a bummer. Really goes to show that I shouldn't get into any Netflix series until it's all finished. Guess that one's on me for thinking they wouldn't cancel a well received show like this again...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Well that's a bummer.... I just finished watching Season 1 a couple of days ago, and was looking forward to seeing where they were going to go with the next one

This reminds me once again to be extra cautious of watching any Netfilx show unless it already has a couple of seasons under its belt...

......not that it worked for The OA. Fuck Netflix

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

For real? This was legitimately well done. I guess Netflix really can't afford any big names these days.

[–] ApollosArrow 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well great, I can remove that from my list of things to watch.

[–] Someasy 1 points 2 months ago

And I will correspondingly add it because I like short shows that were cancelled, for some reason.

[–] Ceedoestrees 4 points 2 months ago

Not enough big magic god special effects was a complaint. Like fuck, I'd rather have solid storytelling and good characters - which Kaos had.

And the thing was I was putting off watching it until I heard about a second season. I don't like to get into new shows anymore unless I know they're going to last, especially when there's so much to watch already. I just finished it the other day and then I see this, breaking the forth wall for some greek god style irony.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was looking forward to Kaos but hadn't gotten round to watching it yet. I guess I'll just not bother...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

If it had continued for another season it might have been worth a watch. But, having ended on a dissatisfyingly unresolved note, it's not worth it at all. Eddie Izzard as a fate was pretty good though.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't Have any movie subscription services, but watched Kaos after finding it randomly on a Chinese website

Ii was pretty good! except wierd Netflix kirks like adding unprompted sex scenes and making everyone gay. I remember being surprised how good writing was, but then i figured somebody had a couple of millenia to write a story, Netflix "adapted" it

I didn't think it needed a second season, unlike another comment below which says it ends on a cliffhanger. I d recommend it to watch even with one season

[–] FooBarrington 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Making "everyone" gay? I can only think of two characters (Theseus and Prometheus), one of which was a very clever adaptation of the myths.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Fellas is Greek myth gay? (spoiler: very)

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The 3 Fates too

[–] FooBarrington 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When were they shown to be gay? I understood them to be gender fluid, which is something different.

[–] AA5B 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There was that “pay with sex” scene for doing Dionysius a favor

[–] FooBarrington 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't remember exactly what you mean, but very possible I missed it/forgot. Is this about the barkeeper?

Though I guess whether it's gay or not depends on how the gender fluid person felt at the time? Not sure how that works. Life is full of mysteries...

[–] AA5B 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it was the bartender - I don’t remember that specifically. Even if I got the details wrong, my point was there were multiple scenes of gay sex.

It was an interesting contrast where the Prometheus scenes is relationship background for why he cares about humans, whereas Dionysus is just sort of there for anything, seemed very casual

[–] FooBarrington 2 points 2 months ago

I only remember the Prometheus scene, but very likely I'm forgetting something.

Fully agree on Prometheus and Dionysus. It was great how Dio kept showing empathy while searching for his purpose, and how the conflict with Zeus ignited a spark in him - he for sure would have played an important role in further plans by Prometheus. Bummer we won't get to see it play out!

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