Stares confused in PC...
this post was submitted on 04 Oct 2024
169 points (96.7% liked)
Games
32640 readers
1732 users here now
Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.
Weekly Threads:
Rules:
-
Submissions have to be related to games
-
No bigotry or harassment, be civil
-
No excessive self-promotion
-
Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts
-
Mark Spoilers and NSFW
-
No linking to piracy
More information about the community rules can be found here.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
I just got a steam deck. What a compliment to my PC.
it is a PC. little bro/sis
Yes I know it is, lil bro/sis. I'm more referring to how I can stream my higher end games from my PC to this PC.
oh I wasn't calling you little bro I was calling the steam deck a little bro
🤣🤣 I totally read it that way
It is a PC. In fact, a good PC. It runs Linux. But it's better than a ordinary Linux PC, since it also has an amazing console UI that's actually fun to use with a gamepad. It's the best of both worlds, and it's build on top of FOSS software. It's excellent.
I know it is... Fun fact, my desktop is also running Arch Linux btw :P
The console UI is just the Steam Big Picture mode but unlike desktop Linux is loaded into at startup. Although loading it at start up can also be enabled on Linux desktops even if you aren't using SteamOS.
Ok, let's say I have no interest in Jailbreaking my PS5.
What happens if I just don't have PS+? And no intention of getting PS+? Will this make it harder for ME to play disc games? Or games I downloaded from the store?
Absolutely nothing will change for legitimate users. If you are not jailbreaking this means nothing to you. I really can't imagine the PS5 jailbreak community is that big.
So the title is just straight up a lie?
I am trying to think of scenarios where this will screw with normal users because companies never do moves like this unless they're after some sort of grift.
But I am not seeing it at present. Maybe I'm just too tired and my brain isn't working, but if a game is downloaded digitally and the license comes with it, there's effectively no difference. Take it offline, you still have the license, no issues.
The only potential impact I can think of is if you have two users on a console that is the home console for neither person, and both of them bought the same game digitally. User 1 downloads the game, the license comes with it, and they take the console offline. User 2 then uses the console, tries to play the game they own, and gets a license error because the console is offline and doesn't know they own it and therefore it can only be played by the person who downloaded it. But I think that's how it works already, since User 2 would still need the console to be online to import their licenses.
Is this an actual edge case?:
Someone whose hard drive is full and buys a bunch of new games and wants to go play PS5 at a cabin in the woods
But you'd still need to download the games onto the ps5 in the cabin in the woods, assuming this doesn't apply to games on disc.
Well, they would get unpatched games which won't be playable anyway 😀
But no, this only happens for downloaded game, and even then it's generally for games you have downloaded as part of subscription. If you stay offline for long period of times (don't know exact time these days, but I think it's at least more than a month), then PS needs to recheck if you still have the subscription, or if the game is still present in subscription.
I could be wrong but it seems like before, licenses for games you owned but hadn't downloaded were already loaded o to your account when you logged in. So in your example, if user 2 bought a game and didn't download it on that console, then user 1 bought and downloaded it and took the PS5 offline, user 2 could still play it because his license was already there. Now, user 2 has to go online to grab the license first.
Seems like it will have a minimal impact.
And only if the PS5 isn't user 1's home console, which if it is, the license extends to any other user on that console.
What this means is that you can't restore your games from backup while offline because uninstalling them also removes the license, forcing you to put the console online again to download the license again.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure that's how PS5 handled that scenario even before this update.
That's the same conclusion I arrived at, but wasn't 100% sure. Since the act of downloading a game and the act of obtaining/transferring licenses both require the console to be online, I couldn't see what difference there would be to the user experience compared to before, even if the order it does those steps in is switched.
How is it a lie? Jailbreakers played their digital games offline fine before this, and now they have a headache, making it harder.