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Jill Stein: How and Why I Will Stop Kamala Harris Winning the White House (www.newsweek.com)

submitted 2 months ago by UniversalMonk to c/politics

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

For the good of the entire fucking world, Jill Stein should go away. Go back to practicing medicine, where you're usually limited to only killing one person at a time.

There's no excuse for the Democrats' support for Israel's genocidal wars, and Biden is complicit in his unwavering material (materiel? Both? Both.) support that allows them to continue doing it. I hate that if I don't vote for the enabling-genocide party, I'll get the enabling-genocide-but-also-women-are-things-and-LGBTQ-people-shouldn't-exist party.

So instead her goal is to ensure the election of Donald Trump and his merry band of eschatological fetishists, who'll not only do the same thing because their literal goal is to bring about the apocalypse, but also bring back all his very smart domestic policies and hand the government over to the Project 2025 fanatics to turn the United States into Gilead. Brilliant. Real big-picture thinking there, doctor.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd argue she shouldn't be allowed to practice anything other than some deep breathing and self-reflection.

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[+] Riccosuave 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

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[–] Doomsider 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (57 children)

It is clear they should be banned already.

I think it does bring up some larger issues though. Like should limits be placed on accounts. Do we really want users like this? Are they adding to the experience?

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[–] Carrolade 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think basement dweller is much more likely. Let's not forget, trolling is fun at a certain age. It's a recreational activity, engaged in as a way to enjoyably pass the time. This is why the advice always used to be to not interact, and just starve them of any engagement so it stopped being enjoyable. To not feed them.

That stopped working when real effects also became achievable, but we shouldn't forget that the first motivation is still there. Just because ignoring them won't make them go away now, because they're trying to actually work on a nebulous goal, doesn't mean it ever stopped being fun.

I mean, is it so hard to believe, when we used to get regularly DDoSed and even occasionally hacked, that we'd also pick up some dedicated trolls from time to time? It'd frankly be pretty naive to think we'd be so lucky, if someone has ever spent any time in the seedier corners of the internet where these things come from.

It's that fun aspect we have to remember. I mean, I disagree with ozma, Linker, jimmydore, lots of people very regularly, but they're not stringing out dozen+ long comment chains just trying to irritate the person they're interacting with at whatever moment. They're not trolling, they just have strong opinions. It's specifically that having fun at other people's expense thing that makes this one different. And frankly, it's very common on the internet, just usually not so much in moderated spaces, when the mods are being appropriately responsible. The rest of the internet is still out there though, can always go spend some time on 4chan's /pol/ if you need to see the sorts of things we're dealing with. Maybe a LoL lobby, I hear those are lovely. Maybe the comments sections under some Gamergate youtuber's videos, or Ben Shapiro or someone.

Plenty of places you can find people that just want to have a good time at your expense. For fun, with just a side dose of fuck-the-world.

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[–] MegaUltraChicken 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yay more nonsense about Jill Stein from someone who prefers a Trump victory. Everyone enjoy your dose of bad faith comments from OP while they continue their totally real crusade against the duopoly. Absolutely not a troll account managed by a bunch of people spamming bullshit day in and day out.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, she'll stop Kamala and hand it to Trump. Nobody is "flocking" to her.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Saying the quiet part out loud?

[–] homesweethomeMrL 13 points 2 months ago

Who?

[–] jordanlund 10 points 2 months ago

"We would rather let Trump endorse killing everyone in Gaza before supporting a cease fire and two state solution."

That's really what this boils down to.

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