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Taylor & Francis and Wiley sold out their researchers in bulk, this should be a crime.

Researchers need to be able to consent or refuse to consent and science need to be respected more than that.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

The shitty chat bots do need high quality data. This is much better than scraping off reddit, since a glorified auto-complete cannot know that eating rocks is bad for you. You can't retroactively complain after having signed away your rights to something. But you can change things moving forward. If you are incorruptible and don't care about money, start an organization with those values and convince the researchers to join you. Good luck (seriously, I hope you succeed).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Reminds me of the song "Feed the Machine" by Poor Man's Poison:

https://youtu.be/BlnVP2_dIb4?si=t6CdslRzb7USrH1j

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Daily reminder that copyright isn’t the only conceivable weapon we can wield against AI.

Anticompetitive business practices, labor law, privacy, likeness rights. There are plenty of angles to attack from.

Most importantly, we need strong unions. However we model AI regulation, we will still want some ability to grant training rights. But it can’t be a boilerplate part of an employment/contracting agreement. That’s the kind of thing unions are made to handle.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Look, I'm not against AI and automation in general. I'm not against losing my job either. We should use this as tools to overcome scarcity, use it for the better future of all of humanity. I don't mind losing my job if I could use my time to do things I love. But that won't happen as long as greedy ass companies use it against us.

[–] krashmo 3 points 53 minutes ago

We conquered our resource scarcity problem years ago. Artificial scarcity still exists in society because we haven't conquered our greed problem.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 hours ago

"it's in the public interest" so all these articles will be freely available to the public. Right?... Riiight?!

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 hours ago

See - this is why I don't give a shit about copyright.

It doesn't protect creators - it just enriches rent-seeking corporate fuckwads.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Oh look! Socialism for the rich!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

[–] finitebanjo 40 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

"How is nobody talking about this?"

The average person has the science literacy at or below a fifth grader, and places academic study precedence below that of a story about a wish granting sky fairy who made earth in his basement as a hobby with zero lighting (obviously, as light hadn't been invented at that point).

[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

“it is in the public interest for these emerging technologies to be trained on high-quality, reliable information.”

Oh, well if you say so. Oh wait, no one has a say anyway because corporations ru(i)n everything.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

"We need to train LLMs with your data in order to make you obsolete."

[–] krashmo 2 points 47 minutes ago

If that's what it takes to get rid of CEOs then I'm on board.

Seriously though, that's the best application of AI. CEO is a simple logic based position, or so they tell us, that happens to consume more financial resources than many dozen lower level employees. If anyone is on the chopping block it should be them, in both senses of the phrase.

[–] mumblerfish 5 points 5 hours ago

It's nice to see them lowering the bar for "high-quality" at the same time. Really makes it seem like they mean it. /s

[–] Grimy 19 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's for reasons like these that I think its foolhardy to be advocating for a strengthening of copyrights when it comes to AI.

The windfall will not be shared, the data is already out of the hands of the individuals and any "pro-artist" law will only help kill the competition for companies like Google, Sony Music, Disney and Microsoft.

These companies will happily pay huge sums to lock anyone out of the scene. They are already splitting it between each other, they are anticipating a green light for regulatory capture.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

Copyright is not supposed to be protecting individuals work from corporations, but the otherway around

[–] sunbrrnslapper 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I think this happens because the publisher owns the content and owes royalties to authors under certain conditions (which may or may not be met in this situation). The reason I think this is I had a PhD buddy who published a book (nonfiction history) and we all got a hardy chuckle at the part of the contract that said the publisher got the theme park rights. But what if there were other provisions in the contract that would allow for this situation without compensating the authors? Anywho, this is a good reminder to read the fine print on anything you sign.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I’d guess books are different, but researchers don’t get paid anything for publishing in academic journals

[–] sunbrrnslapper 4 points 5 hours ago

Oh yeah, good point.

[–] The2b 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

How does cutting peer review time help get more content? The throughput will still be the same regardless of if it takes 15 days or a year to complete a peer review

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Isn't that because the peers also write stuff? So it's not just a fixed delay on one-by-one papers, but a delay that goes between peers' periods of working on papers too.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 3 points 7 hours ago

Thanks for sharing this with us!

Terms of Service and contracts...

It reminded me of this:

"Disney says man can't sue over wife's death because he agreed to Disney+ terms of service" [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/disney-says-man-cant-sue-wifes-death-agreed-disney-terms-service-rcna166594]