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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Gxost to c/coffee
 

Finally, AeroPress made of glass and metal, came out. Its double-walled design should reduce heat loss.

Price: $149,95.

Official site

Was introduced on Williams Sonoma first

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting 40 points 2 months ago

Overpriced wedding gift detected.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen 27 points 2 months ago

Sold at Williams Sonoma says it all. That's way overpriced. Also the amount of times I have dropped a piece of my aeropress, this would last a month, tops.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The pricing for every single one of the new aeropress products are absolutely crazy. I would have loved an XL if it wasn't the price of three original aeropresses.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen 12 points 2 months ago

Yeah they have had MBA SKU madness takeover. They have far too much to sell these days for the simplicity of their original idea.

[–] catalyst 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I love my aeropress, but this seems highly unnecessary to me. I think it’s great that I’ve had the old one for over a decade, I can chuck it in the sink or a drawer and it’s practically indestructible.

I can’t say I’ve ever once noticed my cup being cold after pressing so claims about heat loss feel suspect.

I suppose if you just want the same experience but to feel fancier while doing so and you have cash to spend on it, then go right ahead.

Heck I still chuckle when I am reminded of the aeropress XL. If folks aren’t aware the aeropress company was mostly bought out a few years back which may explain the recent burst in new fangled products.

[–] Gxost 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Heat loss is related to glass, not plastic. Brewers made of glass, ceramics or metal must be preheated before brewing. For AeroPress Premium, heat loss may be not that big, but we need feedback from owners to know exactly.

[–] catalyst 2 points 2 months ago

Fair point, appreciate the clarification!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

For some reason, I get the opposite effect. I feel that the resulting brew from my plastic Aeropress loses more heat than my glass french press, so I have to preheat my coffee mug if I'm using my AP.

Giving it some thought, the effect may not be the AP material itself, but the heat loss from the high surface to volume ratio of the droplets as they come out of the filter, as opposed to the stream as the liquid is poured out in a single thick stream out of the french press.

i.e. A glass Aeropress may not reduce temperature loss significantly over plastic.

But my desire for a glass Aeropress is more for reducing plastic use, and risk of shedding microplastics into foods that I consume.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Can't say that heat loss is a big issue with my 10+ year old Aeropress. Still going strong. Although to be honest my £65 FB Marketplace Gaggia Baby gets way more use. 150 bucks sounds a bit steep for what it is.

[–] shatteredsword 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

$150 and there’s still no funnel?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

asking the real questions

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What would a funnel be for? I can't think of a use for one off the top of my head.

[–] shatteredsword 2 points 2 months ago

The original aeropress had a funnel. It was useful for a couple of reasons. Made it easier to get grounds in the aeropress (I’m very clumsy). I also use the inverted method so I place the filter in the end cap and then place the end cap inside the funnel before i pour hot water over it to get the filter to stick to the end cap without having to worry about burning my hands

[–] WhyAUsername_1 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I am happy with my cheap knockoff aeropress that I throw in my luggage bag when I travel . If I loose it, I buy a new inexpensive aeropress.

Why the hell would I want a glass aeropress?

[–] Gxost 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's for those who use AeroPress at home and are concerned about microplastics.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 1 points 2 months ago

If I was slowly eating my aeropress I would have finished by now. My mama might have raised an idiot, but I finish my food.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Having hot water mixed with plastic is gross.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

To use at home, instead of a much cheaper French press, or a similarly priced cheap espresso machine that makes coffee 100x better. Obviously /s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I see your sarcasm, but all three of these things make very different types of coffee. Even if you can't tell the difference between Aeropress and French press coffee (which probably not a large percent of people can), you can certainly tell the difference between espresso and immersion, right?

As for this thing: plastics do degrade over time, and an insulated glass body is a nice upgrade. The metal press won't contribute anything to the coffee quality, but it looks better, and probably feels nicer.

[–] Blue_Morpho 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The rubber seal part is the first part to go and it's unchanged on this new glass version.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Huh. I've had mine for over a decade; granted, it only for heavy use for a few months when I first got it, and about once a week since, and the rubber gasket is fine. I have no doubt that you're right; gaskets almost always require semi-regular replacement; I have to replace the gaskets in my espresso machine every 2-3 years, and boy is that a chore. Those are doing far heavier duty than the Aeropress gasket, so I'd expect it to last longer. How fast did your's fail?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they're saying it failed. They're saying that it will fail long before the body ever does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Oh. But, the glass isn't for longevity. It's to provide insulation and prevent the plastic from (imperceptively) breaking down and leaking microplastics into your coffee. I didn't mean the plastic would fail. In fact, I'd expect the plastic to last longer than the glass, just by the sheer probability of accidents over the lifetime of the device.

[–] catalyst 2 points 2 months ago

This is true. I know I’ve gone through a few gasket replacements myself. I can tell it’s starting to fail when the pressure starts to feel weirdly weak and too easy to press down on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Plastics may degrade, but (as others have mentioned) if a plastic one lasts 10+ years, so far, where's the value in a glass one?

Plus you could buy 4 plastic ones for the cost of 1 glass that could far more easily break.

I'm all for glass in a LOT of stuff. I even kind of like it here (for the reasons you've stated), I just can't get behind the cost.

I tend to go for better/best quality in most things, I hate buying stuff twice. But there's value in being able to replace a less robust device for 1/4 the cost of the "higher quality" version.

[–] drphungky 7 points 2 months ago

Plastics may degrade, but (as others have mentioned) if a plastic one lasts 10+ years

Micro plastics can be released as soon as a water bottle is first filled. This isn't the structural integrity of the plastic failing, it's your endocrine system and who knows what else being affected by tiny pieces of plastic that start shedding immediately.

Look, I'm not saying this isn't a cash grab because the serial inventor who made the aero press sold a controlling stake in his company and the new firm is squeezing as much money out as they can before the patent expires, BUT some of us do care about micro plastics. Not that I give my daughter coffee, but now that I have a toddler we've eliminated as much food related plastic as we can.

Stuff is genuinely damaging and yet we keep using it because it's convenient. And people wonder why the Romans used lead containers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Value for me would be that the glass one doesnt acquire stale coffee taste, no matter how well I try to clean my plastic one it seems to have some residual taste. Try brewing a cup without coffee grounds , just hot water and tatse it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Unless you're buying used (or you really know what you're doing), you'll get way better coffee out of the Aeropress than the espresso machine for that price

Of course, the point is moot when you could make coffee just as well in a cheap plastic Aeropress.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The De'Longhi Dedica is around €140 new and, while it's not something to write home about, will do much better coffee than an aeropress.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Agreed.

Delonghi does some magic to make a cheap espresso machine actually produce sufficient pressure for a fast brew.

Their old machine, circa 2005 worked, but not well.

The newer ones have been tested numerous times and produce the pressure they're labeled to, and maintain it across the brew. Mine is always done in just under 20 seconds, and when I've (intentionally) over-pressed the coffee into the portafilter it may take 30. The old one couldn't even handle a we'll-pressed puck.

The new steamer works far better too. I never did like their old "steam assist" trickery. The new one uses an actual wand inside the "assist tube" . If you take off the assist, it works just like an actual wand. I'm not even sure why the assist tube is there.

Everyone I've made an espresso for has been surprised I didn't pay $500+ for a machine.

For the typical home user, you really can't beat a Delonghi, given it's at most $150.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

$70 isn't going to get you much of an espresso machine, unless you're talking about a moka pot, and I'd challenge you on that one. You can make very fine espresso with a moka pot.

And Aeropress aren't known for making espresso; there's not enough pressure from proper espresso extraction, and I'd expect espresso from an Aeropress to be under extracted and pretty horrible, Aeropress advertising notwithstanding. Most people use their Aeropress to make coffee; it's apples to oranges.

[–] TheGiantKorean 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I love the look and the idea of this, but this also exactly the type of thing I would drop and break.

[–] SpruceBringsteen 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not just worried about dropping, but this is something you press down on.

People generally clumsy or pressing too hard are going to have a bad time if they manage to break the glass while pressing down.

[–] sploosh 2 points 2 months ago

You're more likely to inadvertently press obliquely just a little too much and have the whole thing fall over, spilling hot coffee and grounds all around while possibly breaking the mug you were pressing into.

[–] TheGiantKorean 1 points 2 months ago

Yes definitely. I already worry about the container I'm pressing the coffee into.

[–] spicystraw 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I only recently heard of aeropress products. Are they genuinely good? What's the difference to a French press?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can't say enough good things about mine.

If I would start all over, the only two coffee makers I would own are:

  • Aeropress
  • Size 03 Hario Switch (V60 + a stopper for immersion brew)
[–] Gxost 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How are they in comparison when Hario Switch isn't used as V60?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Comparing Switch Immersion vs Aeropress?

That's a good question. Been a while since I've gone actually immersion brewed with it (usually just pour over and use the stopper for pre heating with less water). I'll make a couple of cups and get back to you.

Edit:

Cup making done! The immersion brew is super clean and easy. I do think some type of lid would help for longer brew times to keep the heat in on the Switch though.

I think both the Aeropress and Switch Immersion lend themselves well to darker (chocolatier/nuttier) extractions. After this little test I will probably switch over to immersion brewing for my afternoon decaf for the foreseeable future!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I don't drink coffee, but the owner of a coffee plantation on the side of a volcano in Panama told me that it was one of the best ways to make coffee. I figure he would know.

My wife, who does love coffee, doesn't use it simply because it only makes one small cup of coffee at a time, and she likes to start the day with a big cup. She acknowledges that the taste is superior.

[–] Gxost 4 points 2 months ago

They're good, but I'd avoid AeroPress Clear for now, as there are crack reports on the internet. Other models are durable. Compared to French press, AeroPress produces cleaner cups because of paper filter utilization. Also, though AeroPress is an immersion brewer, it also allows percolation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

It's a different brewing method using pressure through a filter, resulting in a more fragrant brew.

I use a recipe that just brews in an inverted Aeropress for 10 seconds, so it comes out faster too, although most recipes call for brewing for longer.

But the quick method is great if I'm in a hurry that morning.

One downside to Aeropress is consuming paper filters, but I also have an aftermarket reusable metal mesh filter, and it works great.

Another downside is the dreaded "inverted Aeropress" disaster, which I recently experienced. I hold it by the plunger now ;-)

I alternate using both french press and Aeropress to keep from getting bored with my coffee.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Don't forget the $100 organizer. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I do the inverted aeropress method and have an accident or two. Even using it as directed method there is not way I would want to buy this because it is breakable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Kinda want, but that price...