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Conservatives only deal with what's on the surface so everything past your first sentence will mean nothing to them.

not to mention apparently there have been recent studies that predict the deorbiting of all the satellites is going to have drastic climate effects

It's an easy reaction to have when you only read the headline. But if you do the math, Starlink already provides service to most of the north at less than $200/mo per person. There are less than 120k people in the northern territories. That 2.2bn works out to something like 85 years of Starlink service per person in the north (assuming everyone there needs an individual dish, which isn't the case). Myself and a couple of other commentors have done some looking into Telesat as a company and they launched one (1) LEO "test sat" in 2018 and haven't done a fucking thing since to get northern people online in a timely fashion.

If you actually talk to people who live in the north most of them who can afford to already have Starlink, because it works far better than Xplore which was the only option previously, for many years. Most northern mining, logging, and oil camps are also getting their workers online with Starlink and have been for a few years already.

I've not a fan of Elon, or the canadian libs, or the conservative party. But this whole discussion is kinda bullshit. As far as I'm concerned Elon Musk is guillotine lube, top of the list. The day after he is beheaded, Starlink as a company will continue operating. Which, frankly, is best-case scenario. idk what else to say about that.

This. I was about to write the same.

Fuck Starlink and their absurd amount of satellites. Why are things that are bad on paper still out into practice and then get people to talk about it as if its the next best thing after sliced bread? 5 Geo orbit satellites do the same and more than an entire fleet of star link satellites that would ruin Astronomy forever, not to mention the pollution, high cost, and now having these stupid dots fly visibly through the sky at night. These satellites will fall out of the sky within a decade due to their low orbit so continously require more launches to resupply them, adding pollution over pollution. None of this is even mentioning the risk for a full scale Kessler syndrome with this trash.

Fully agree, Starlink (and others like it) should be forbidden

Elliptical orbits are perfect for polar regions, both Leo and geo are inevitability going to suffer more than a well covered elliptical

Destroying the planet? And geosync doesn't work period. What could have been done is the money that was given to the telecoms actually be used to run fiber to everyone that they promised...

This is exactly what we want. Fuck the conservatives and Musk.

I want a public fibre network, not for-profit space junk.

Also the cost of starlink is well known, I looked into it and found it to not be affordable for our situation myself and decided against it. It's a few hundred for the equipment itself and then I believe at the time it was around $140 a month.

Pray he does not alter the deal any further

It's a federal loan. Meaning there are probably very favorable terms. Things like principle forgiveness, "negative interest" (yes that's a thing that has happened, at least in the US), etc. There becomes a point where it is essentially no different than free money.

Terms that only corporations and uber-wealthy get. And maybe some local municipalities if your state isn't a complete shithole.

Except that Starlink pricing and throughput is not linear. They're starting to add congestion charges in popular areas, they have no satellites at higher latitudes, and their devices suffer at low temperatures. If you think that Starlink will be able to deliver what Elmo claims, then I have a trip to the Titanic to sell to you.

Telesat is a Canadian company. The benefit extends beyond just the satellite internet service. We get a domestic provider of this service so we don’t have to rely on Elon and his ketamine delusions and ties to Russia. This will also create Canadian jobs and boost our economy.

Starlink and low-orbit sats for internet coverage are a similar leap ahead in cost and speed to deploy. Elon and his goons saw it coming long before anyone else did, and the fact they also have Space X was a pretty key part of their speed to deploy.

Starlink was SpaceXs solution to having a reusable first stage rocket and not enough demand for all the flights they could now do.

They basically poured billions into perfecting reuse, and had to find a way to make money on the new but upfront costly capabilities so they came up with starlink.

Edit: it also gave them a safer way to more easily test flight proven rockets with what was at the time more weary customers of the tech. For awhile NASA still wanted new rockets, but then became fine with flight proven as all the extra flights showed it was okay.