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A $2.14-billion federal loan for an Ottawa-based satellite operator has Canadian politicians arguing about whether American billionaire Elon Musk poses a national security risk.

The fight involves internet connectivity in remote regions as Canada tries to live up to its promise to connect every Canadian household to high-speed internet by 2030.

A week ago, the Liberal government announced the loan to Telesat, which is launching a constellation of low Earth orbit satellites that will be able to connect the most remote areas of the country to broadband internet.

Conservative MP Michael Barrett objected to the price tag, asking Musk in a social media post how much it would cost to provide his Starlink to every Canadian household that does not have high-speed access.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It's an easy reaction to have when you only read the headline. But if you do the math, Starlink already provides service to most of the north at less than $200/mo per person. There are less than 120k people in the northern territories. That 2.2bn works out to something like 85 years of Starlink service per person in the north (assuming everyone there needs an individual dish, which isn't the case). Myself and a couple of other commentors have done some looking into Telesat as a company and they launched one (1) LEO "test sat" in 2018 and haven't done a fucking thing since to get northern people online in a timely fashion.

If you actually talk to people who live in the north most of them who can afford to already have Starlink, because it works far better than Xplore which was the only option previously, for many years. Most northern mining, logging, and oil camps are also getting their workers online with Starlink and have been for a few years already.

I've not a fan of Elon, or the canadian libs, or the conservative party. But this whole discussion is kinda bullshit. As far as I'm concerned Elon Musk is guillotine lube, top of the list. The day after he is beheaded, Starlink as a company will continue operating. Which, frankly, is best-case scenario. idk what else to say about that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think you calculated 85 months, not years, which are almost exactly 7 years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah caught that. Appropriately apologetic for even trying to use a calculator. I'm a HS dropout, what can I say πŸ˜‚

Thanks for fact-checking.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I think Starlink is stealing our sky and every C- level in the company should be shot and their holdings seized and sold to fund running fiber cables or whatever to rural communities.

I believe this to be a fair and equitable compromise between our positions, hbu?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You may want to double-check that math ;)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah caught that. Appropriately apologetic for even trying to use a calculator. I'm a HS dropout, what can I say πŸ˜‚

Thanks for fact-checking.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have we learned nothing about putting all our dependence on foreign mega corps? Spending more to build up local talent is a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I'm with you on that. I really am. However I'm also for people in the north getting online effectively before another decades passes. The government (and that's not just the libs) have been promising this shit since the early oughts, and throwing money at it that seldom seems to do any good.