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A Meme. The first half shows a screenshot of the game "Banana" on Steam, showing how it weighs 1.89 Gigabytes. The second half shows a couple of native americans talking on a snowy landscape while inspecting footprints on the snow.

Native A: A western game dev has been here. Native B: How can you tell? Native A: It weighs 1.89 Gigabytes.

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[–] xantoxis 54 points 1 week ago (2 children)

OK wtf is with the posts about "western game dev", as if that has anything at all to do with disk space?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not sure it's exclusive to Western developers, as I don't know much about software in other parts of the world, but there does seem to be an unfortunate trend of companies forgoing software optimization because modern computers are usually beefy enough to handle it, and it's cheaper to ship out inefficient slapdash software than it is to take the time and resources to fix it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not making excuses for every instance but in the vast majority of cases, optimizations are done by making trades between runtime performance, RAM usage, and disk space. Of these, disk is cheapest. You might optimize something and end up using more disk space as a result.

For example not all video cards support compressed texture file formats (though gaming hardware is likely to be close to 100% now....) so you might store texture memory uncompressed on disk (bigger size) to save on the decompression needing to happen on the CPU before transfer to the GPU.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I mean sure, there are always concessions to be made, but what I had in mind was more the "include this entire 6 GB library so I can use this particular function once" kind of bloat.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Maybe they are making fun of obesity?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Western countries (USA) often have rich economies, which means that the average person in said countries often has better access to high amounts of storage than people from impoverished countries. This makes it so it's not a priority for companies targeting that audience to optimize for disk space.

TLDR: Rich countries get beefy PCs, which get unoptimized games

[–] yokonzo 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

1.9gb is a high amount of storage?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago

For a banana clicker, yes

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

That's bigger than the Fedora ISO

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, it really isn't... Not in 2024.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's a game where you click bananas.

There is no reason for it to be so large. It is a banana. That you click.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As a person who have 32 GB storage on my mobile device. It is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not a mobile game though.

[–] Zangoose 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're right. It actually has less content than any mobile game except cookie clicker (and even then it's arguable cookie clicker has more content). In reality this should fit on an 8gb phone from 2010 because it is literally just a single image of a banana that you click on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It does fit on a 8 GB phone though.

[–] Zangoose 2 points 1 week ago

I mean assuming you have nothing else except the OS on it fair enough I guess

[–] thedirtyknapkin 1 points 1 week ago

their point is that this is a game with maybe 50 still image assets and absurdly simply gameplay. it could be like 2MB, but it was likely built on preexisting assets and code that don't try to be lightweight.

the point is that 10 years ago the exact same game would have been like 25MB at most. I'm not familiar enough with the changes in the tools used by Indy devs in the time, but my guess is that it's where you'll find the reason.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I think the OP's explanation is the real one, but I still like to think this is a thing where more than one thing can be true

[–] Shady_Shiroe 3 points 1 week ago

We like our apps to match our waists xD

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My OS is lighter than that btw

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] AllYourSmurf 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I keep seeing that. Is BTW a reference to a particular build of Arch, or a particular way of setting up your Arch distro?

By the way, I’m familiar with Linux in general. Just curious about this particular thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

arch is infamous for being kinda hard to install ESPECIALLY when it first came out (i dont think it's that bad tbh) and it was a common thing on forums for elitists to say 'oh i use arch btw' (btw meaning by the way) to sound better than the other ppl on there

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

BTW stands for by the way.

So it's basically a meme of "I use arch, by the way."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

No, no its just a well written joke. Like he can't talk that he uses arch linux.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The worst offender I've ever seen is Ark and that's a Chinese developer. It's over 400GB to install Ark.

[–] iAvicenna 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have heard rumors that it keeps a separate copy of every dinosaur and object for each map and that is why it is so gigantic. hard to guess what would force them such a design though

[–] asmoranomar 1 points 1 week ago

In it's early days? My nephew played that a long time ago. It filled his PC. I thought it was mods. As in, the entire game would clone itself when it created a mod profile. I don't think it does that anymore.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago
[–] aeronmelon 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Without checking, is it a bitcoin miner?

[–] AkatsukiLevi 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No, it's a steam item miner

EDIT: to explain, clicking the banana gives you random "Steam Inventory" items, that players can sell on the marketplace The entire thing is just money laundry

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've never understood that weird market... Why the fuck is anyone buying that shit?

[–] AkatsukiLevi 1 points 1 week ago

FOMO The entire reason why people buy is the thought they could sell for more to people that also want to buy to sell for more

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Low-fee way to transfer currency out of Russia, China, Iran etc.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana 1 points 1 week ago