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A Meme. The first half shows a screenshot of the game "Banana" on Steam, showing how it weighs 1.89 Gigabytes. The second half shows a couple of native americans talking on a snowy landscape while inspecting footprints on the snow.

Native A: A western game dev has been here. Native B: How can you tell? Native A: It weighs 1.89 Gigabytes.

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[–] xantoxis 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

OK wtf is with the posts about "western game dev", as if that has anything at all to do with disk space?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure it's exclusive to Western developers, as I don't know much about software in other parts of the world, but there does seem to be an unfortunate trend of companies forgoing software optimization because modern computers are usually beefy enough to handle it, and it's cheaper to ship out inefficient slapdash software than it is to take the time and resources to fix it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not making excuses for every instance but in the vast majority of cases, optimizations are done by making trades between runtime performance, RAM usage, and disk space. Of these, disk is cheapest. You might optimize something and end up using more disk space as a result.

For example not all video cards support compressed texture file formats (though gaming hardware is likely to be close to 100% now....) so you might store texture memory uncompressed on disk (bigger size) to save on the decompression needing to happen on the CPU before transfer to the GPU.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I mean sure, there are always concessions to be made, but what I had in mind was more the "include this entire 6 GB library so I can use this particular function once" kind of bloat.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Maybe they are making fun of obesity?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Western countries (USA) often have rich economies, which means that the average person in said countries often has better access to high amounts of storage than people from impoverished countries. This makes it so it's not a priority for companies targeting that audience to optimize for disk space.

TLDR: Rich countries get beefy PCs, which get unoptimized games

[–] yokonzo 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

1.9gb is a high amount of storage?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago

For a banana clicker, yes

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

That's bigger than the Fedora ISO

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No, it really isn't... Not in 2024.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's a game where you click bananas.

There is no reason for it to be so large. It is a banana. That you click.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As a person who have 32 GB storage on my mobile device. It is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not a mobile game though.

[–] Zangoose 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're right. It actually has less content than any mobile game except cookie clicker (and even then it's arguable cookie clicker has more content). In reality this should fit on an 8gb phone from 2010 because it is literally just a single image of a banana that you click on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It does fit on a 8 GB phone though.

[–] Zangoose 2 points 2 months ago

I mean assuming you have nothing else except the OS on it fair enough I guess

[–] thedirtyknapkin 1 points 2 months ago

their point is that this is a game with maybe 50 still image assets and absurdly simply gameplay. it could be like 2MB, but it was likely built on preexisting assets and code that don't try to be lightweight.

the point is that 10 years ago the exact same game would have been like 25MB at most. I'm not familiar enough with the changes in the tools used by Indy devs in the time, but my guess is that it's where you'll find the reason.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I think the OP's explanation is the real one, but I still like to think this is a thing where more than one thing can be true

[–] Shady_Shiroe 3 points 2 months ago

We like our apps to match our waists xD

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My OS is lighter than that btw

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] AllYourSmurf 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I keep seeing that. Is BTW a reference to a particular build of Arch, or a particular way of setting up your Arch distro?

By the way, I’m familiar with Linux in general. Just curious about this particular thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

arch is infamous for being kinda hard to install ESPECIALLY when it first came out (i dont think it's that bad tbh) and it was a common thing on forums for elitists to say 'oh i use arch btw' (btw meaning by the way) to sound better than the other ppl on there

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

BTW stands for by the way.

So it's basically a meme of "I use arch, by the way."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

No, no its just a well written joke. Like he can't talk that he uses arch linux.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The worst offender I've ever seen is Ark and that's a Chinese developer. It's over 400GB to install Ark.

[–] iAvicenna 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have heard rumors that it keeps a separate copy of every dinosaur and object for each map and that is why it is so gigantic. hard to guess what would force them such a design though

[–] asmoranomar 1 points 2 months ago

In it's early days? My nephew played that a long time ago. It filled his PC. I thought it was mods. As in, the entire game would clone itself when it created a mod profile. I don't think it does that anymore.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago
[–] aeronmelon 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Without checking, is it a bitcoin miner?

[–] AkatsukiLevi 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No, it's a steam item miner

EDIT: to explain, clicking the banana gives you random "Steam Inventory" items, that players can sell on the marketplace The entire thing is just money laundry

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I've never understood that weird market... Why the fuck is anyone buying that shit?

[–] AkatsukiLevi 1 points 2 months ago

FOMO The entire reason why people buy is the thought they could sell for more to people that also want to buy to sell for more

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Low-fee way to transfer currency out of Russia, China, Iran etc.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana 1 points 2 months ago