In case anyone was wondering, Pocketpair has already announced they're going to fight Nintendo.
Unlike a certain other company that folded like a coward in 2 days after a simple C&D letter, took their money and ran.
this post was submitted on 19 Sep 2024
114 points (96.7% liked)
Games
16741 readers
755 users here now
Video game news oriented community. No NanoUFO is not a bot :)
Posts.
- News oriented content (general reviews, previews or retrospectives allowed).
- Broad discussion posts (preferably not only about a specific game).
- No humor/memes etc..
- No affiliate links
- No advertising.
- No clickbait, editorialized, sensational titles. State the game in question in the title. No all caps.
- No self promotion.
- No duplicate posts, newer post will be deleted unless there is more discussion in one of the posts.
- No politics.
Comments.
- No personal attacks.
- Obey instance rules.
- No low effort comments(one or two words, emoji etc..)
- Please use spoiler tags for spoilers.
My goal is just to have a community where people can go and see what new game news is out for the day and comment on it.
Other communities:
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Lol this is hilarious. "Coward". Have you ever looked down the barrel of an enterprise legal team, and seen just the opening bill to defend team? I haven't, but I'm aware that it is a huge and expensive endeavor and "bravery" has nothing to do with it.
You mean what Pocketpair is doing right now? They're both businesses who should have known they would come up against Nintendo at some point.
Pocket pair has money. Pal world was a smash hit and sold millions of copies and they could still be buried under legal fees by a behemoth like Nintendo via bullshit like repeated appeals
Edit: in the us at least, not sure if this is suit is in Japan only, seems it was filed in tokyo. See the downfall of gawker for a US example
The claims are very different. I'm not moving the goalposts here, it's critical to the situation and was always available information.
It's not cowardice to refuse to fight a completely unwinnable battle. You only fight if you can win something. Otherwise, take the inevitable loss and spend the resources elsewhere.
It wasn't completely unwinnable, it was legally untested waters and could have gone either way, had they fought and won they would have even set a precedent for future emulation projects.
This wasn't some 2 person team project. It was a company with real money that could have fought and laid the foundation for the future safety of emulation. And because they were a company all liability laid with the company with no personal liability risk to the founders. But they didn't, they settled in less than 2 days, tucked tail and ran with the remaining money.
Cowards.
Who did that? I forgot
Yuzu, and before any of their apologists come on here, they were a company that reportedly had millions in the bank and could have fought.
Yuzu were scuzzy as fuck. There's a thread in /r/emulation where one of their members admits to the project stealing code from Ryujinx and then whines like a little baby over getting called out on it, claiming that it's okay to steal open-source code without attribution.
Oh yeaaaa they had a whole patreon pulling in like 50k a month right? Wild
What's millions to Nintendo? Yuzu's a business at it's core. they are designed to make money
So is Pocketpair.
Right and their current assessment (from their legal team) clearly is that they have a case to defend themselves.
Yuzu, based on their actions, determined they didn't.
Edit as such, spending the money would have been just burning it.
It's not bravery
It was less than 2 days that Yuzu made their announcement. They didn't carefully consider shit, they had their exit plan in case Nintendo came knocking and it was to run for the hills like cowards wasting the opportunity to set a real precedent and possibly protecting the future of other emulation projects.
And they were a company, all liability rested with the company, not the people running it, so they could have easily run it into the ground fighting and then went "whoopsy" and declared bankruptcy like so many companies have done
They were cowards.
Right. If the company keeps their money, they have money, for money things. Like giving the staff money, to make others products for money.
If they stack all their money, shove it up a lawyer's ass, and send them waddling in the Nintendo front door, they apparently have bravery, but, alas, no money.
It would be poor leadership to "go into the ground".
Blatantly incorrect. They jumped on the sword to protect a legal precedent concerning emulation.
If the courts had ruled in favor of Nintendo, guess what? That means ALL emulators are on the chopping block. All of them. They knew.
Once you have case history to back you up, it becomes a domino effect.
This has absolutely nothing to do with cowardice.
nintendo and friends are out of line. Undisclosed patents being infringed sounds bullshit, and game patents are even more bullshit. tony hawk isn't the only skating game. cod isn't the only shooting game. Pokémon and palworld certainly aren't the only creature capture and exploit for human benefit games.
Either strike right after release or don't strike at all. Palworld was already starting to lose steam. Nintendo is doing a Streisand effect.