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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"Own version of reality" is code for "can't stop lying"

[–] ladicius 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Probably approaching the realms of clinical diagnostics.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

He's way beyond that, is he approaching from the other side?

[–] cheese_greater 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] ccunning 7 points 3 months ago
[–] homesweethomeMrL 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Goddamn NPR, look how far out you had to go to avoid saying he's a liar, he's demented, he's anything.

You see that don't you? Look: "Trump’s own version of reality" what is that? What? "version of reality"? By itself that doesn't make any sense. Contextually we all get it, but why can't you say something more concrete? Why leave it all cloudy and non-specific? (Don't tell me fear of being sued - that's a red herring. You're telling me the billion-dollar media organizations (and NPR) can't fathom how they might swing a first amendment case against a convicted felon and pathological liar? Bullshit.)

And "continues to confound" damn - confound does it. Like, what, they can't understand his genius? You see how you're leaving the out there? Don't do that. Stop it. Be a proper journalistic entity. Call it like it is. Don't be afraid.

[–] Questy 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is a good article that deeply examines Trump's use of grandiose and unsupported claims, made up "facts", and the difficulty in framing and reacting to it experienced by media and politicians. I don't think dumbing down the wording to "Trump lies" will do anything to improve it. The entire premise and text of the article takes it as given that Trump lies so frequently and thoroughly that it transcends being a liar and becomes an alternative reality his followers have bought into. If you're worried they're not calling him out, you should read it.

[–] homesweethomeMrL -2 points 3 months ago

I don't think dumbing down the wording to "Trump lies" will do anything to improve it.

Respectfully, I disagree entirely. The whole point is the headline. Because trump's supporters don't read articles. The headline is the closest we're going to get. The fact that every corporate news organization (yes that includes NPR) goes to incredible lengths to NOT say he lied is proof enough they're doing it deliberately. See "falsely claimed".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it's just a different viewpoint, but I find the sarcasm of that headline vastly more damning than just saying 'Trump lies again'. It basically saying that his brain is so fried that he's unable or unwilling to engage with the reality the rest of us experience.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 1 points 3 months ago

Of course, but that’s because you’re already engaged with both politics and the written word. Qanon Qaren needs to see the words Trump Lies in black-and-white a lot, so the message begins to sink in.

The more the headlines don’t say it the harder it is to win, and the longer this whole trump horror continues.

And they know that

[–] btaf45 4 points 3 months ago

Treason Trump shouting "They are eating the cats and dogs" is going to be the defining moment of the Republican Party for a generation.

[–] MediaBiasFactChecker -3 points 3 months ago

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