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Yes. The answer is Yes. And Hank Green brings receipts.

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[–] TommySoda 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I remember watching this when it first came out and I was honestly as upset as him. But don't worry, it's for the benefit of everyone so they can make AI as best as they can or some shit. But really it's just stealing with extra steps.

Remember that every single piece of AI art, music, and video you have ever seen was made entirely out of stuff found online and most likely taken without people's consent.

[–] fpslem 14 points 2 months ago

But really it’s just stealing with extra steps.

Accurate.

[–] devfuuu 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

I think the screenshot with “YES” in the background helped ;)

[–] cheese_greater 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I thought they needed to ban bots to "keep their community safe"?!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The competition's bots.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Banning other bots keeps their community safe from having competitors

[–] vxx 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Half of YouTube videos are written and read by AI these days. That will be a wonderful feedback loop if they train it on those videos.

[–] paraphrand 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

None of these companies are stupid enough to train on unvetted channels full of random videos. They are selectively taking them on a channel by channel basis.

[–] vxx 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They're all in in the insane race for dominance against each other. I doubt they rate quality that high right now. They want data fast to get money first.

[–] paraphrand 5 points 2 months ago

You watched the video and saw there is a list of channels. Right?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Obviously they are since i got a youtube premium feature the other day that gave me a button to skip a sponsored segment and it's most likely an ai that said the segment starts here and ends there from learning the sponsorship patterns.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That 'feature' has been around on no official YouTube apps for a long time now. Zero reason to pay for it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s called sponsorblock, and there is no machine learning involved whatsoever. The data is crowdsourced.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That data is also publicly available (of course), so a model could be trained on it. I'd love to say I'd doubt Google/YouTube would ever do that, but at this point nothing would surprise me.

[–] vxx 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If you move the slider on a video you'll see which parts were watched most. The big peaks usually indicate people skipping sponsored segments.

You don't need AI for it.

[–] paraphrand 3 points 2 months ago

More data is always better. Especially data curated by humans. Have you not been paying attention? 😉

[–] astropenguin5 5 points 2 months ago

As a other premium user, trust me that is not the main reason I use it, it's entirely to get rid of ads on mobile. I use the feature occasionally on mobile too but on desktop I use sponsorblock and it's wayyy better both from an accuracy and user interface standpoint.

Sidenote: I also am on a plan that my parents pay for, though I used to pay for it myself after getting it for free for 6 months and I couldn't go back to the ads

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Oh you know they are. Did you have to ask?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Oh good. So Google's AI is going to be just as bad at proselytizing, skepticism, and logic as Christians are.

Can't wait to debate a computer that "thinks" fine-tuning and the Kalam cosmological argument are the best ideas nobody could ever debunk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Raise your hand if you've never trained on a YouTube video

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I've trained on a lot of YouTube videos, I love Antranik's yoga and related vids (website if interested).

[–] paraphrand 1 points 2 months ago

He addresses this.

If you are trying to make the argument learning from media is the same as taking that media and performing calculations on it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago

🙋🏻‍♂️