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Sony Xperia smartphones look so good on paper. So why is it that we don't recommend them? Here's our answer to that and a brief 2023 review of the Sony Xperia 1 IV.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Why People Arent Buying Sony Xperia Phones

because they are fucking expensive

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

There you have it folks. Its expensive and you pay upfront. Most people don't have $1500 laying around to wing at a phone yet alone a $500 emergency budget sadly. Especially these days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

S24 Ultra isn't any cheaper and it's selling well.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

how much of that is due to people actually being able to actually buy a s24, or because that just what happens to be their phone carrier's option? when selling phone it's extremely important distinction, most people can get their phones "significantly cheaper" so to speak, via their carrier.

As an ex cellphone salesman I have never seen any carriers here in canada selling phones in like, pretty much the last decade almost now. Canadian here. Rodgers, Bell, Koodo, Fido, off the top of my head, none sell sony phones.

Now I did often try to sell cellphones to folk out right since IMO it's far better to own the device and pay for a cheap plan, but to do that, phones need to actually be affordable.

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[–] Boeddabart 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Poor updates (policy), overpriced for the specs. I mean, 400-500 for a phone with a SD695 and 60hrz? Come on... Such a shame, because they are the only ones with a screen without a punchhole/camera cutout...

[–] Bach37strad 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

And they quit making the compact. I rocked 3 or 4 new old stock Xperia xz1 for YEARS. Smallest phones I could get at the time. Now I'm doing the same thing with the s10e which I still feel is too big.

[–] CookieMonsterDebate 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes. I loved the compact! Small size is still a major criteria when I look at phones, but they're unfortunately just getting bigger and bigger.. Plus, yeah they were sorta expensive, but super solid. Would buy again anytime.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (11 children)

2 Years of updates was my reason. Samsung is up to 7,Apple is about 5 or 6 and Google is 7 years.

Note this is based off of my memory so I could be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Have Samsung & Google actually delivered 7 years yet - or is that still just a promise on paper to continue supporting existing products?

Apple for all its faults has at least delivered on this premise.

[–] jacktherippah 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Google and Samsung both have a track record of delivering updates even past the promised date so far.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

iPhone 6s (2015) received a security update this month, they have delivered indeed

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Samsung made that promise last year and limited to the higher-end lineups, I believe.

Google still update their pixel 6 phones from years ago (not sure about the pixel 5 or below).

Apple is a complete different story since they owned the entire ecosystems and keeps making money from the devices being in use.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Apple supports phones 7+ years and basically has always had the longest support of all the OEMs

IPhone 6s received updates in the past year and it’s from 2015

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No entry level options, relatively lower specs for the price asked, mediocre software support. That being said, they are one of the few OEMs in their price segment to still offer headphone jacks.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah headphone jack is a nice bonus, my only method of playing audio from my phone in the car is the aux cable

[–] Defectus 4 points 2 months ago

Me too. I bought a ugreen Bluetooth to aux adapter. Just a USB stick with wire an 3,5mm headphone jack on. Works great and I payed 20€.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

They're also comparatively "small" in this world of bricks.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I got an Xperia 5 IV very recently when my Galaxy S7 died. Been happy with it. Smallest phone I could find with an SD card slot, and while it's still larger than my old phone, the screen is the same width, just taller. Overpriced? Probably a bit. In the end though, I like it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The size is why I keep them in the back of my head. Because when my Pixel 4a dies I'm kinda screwed with how humongous (what?) all those phones nowadays are.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Right, like people want to develop wrist pain over a damn phone. 5&6" is hard to come by.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I upgraded from an S7 in the past year... I ended up going with a Samsung XCover 6 Pro since Sony doesn't sell their flagship phones in Canada...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Shit updates, expensive, terrible marketing (since ever). I used to buy Xperia phones exclusively, the compact ones to be precise, then Sony decided that compact phones and affordable phones had to go, I bought an Xperia 10 (I or II, can't remember) and it absolutely sucked. When it broke I bought a random Chinese phone from the store, ended up with a Realme. Works better, with worse battery life tho.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

I just bought a new phone. I went with a Galaxy again. I really wanted the Sony because it has a great feature set. However, I was not confident in long term support, which Sony has said will be much shorter than competitors. And it also cost about 30% more than the other flagship phones. I can't justify spending more money for a phone that will last me half as long.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Stubborn ideologies, slow to changes, devices get abandoned after 2 years.

Used to be a big fan of Xperia phones up until the Xperia 5.

[–] JigglySackles 3 points 2 months ago

I loved my XZ premium . Would still use it if it hadn't come down with an unfixable charging issue.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] HarriPotero 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There's an embedded video above the headline. It's easy to dismiss as an ad. I did, too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

It's easy to dismiss as an ad. I did, too.

Well, Vivaldi's built-in in adblock apparently agrees with this categorization. The video shows up if I disable it. Lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It isn't much better either. HTG went from a great site publishing tech articles to riddled with paywalls(you will encounter sign in screens if you read multiple articles quickly), Premium options, ad affiliated newsletter links and just constant churning of low quality filler mostly.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm gonna be real, I thought Sony stopped making these 5 years ago. Probably because I haven't looked into buying a phone since that long ago

They used to do great phones though. The Xperia Play (and its slimmer Arc cousin) and the Walkman feature phone are still personal favorites of mine.

[–] jacktherippah 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Their phones are far too expensive and their software support is horrible.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

My favorite phone was a Sony Xperia Compact. If they still have SD Card slots my next phone will be Sony.

[–] aluminium 7 points 2 months ago

Marketing and availablity. Unless you watch Phonereviews you probably have no idea these phones exist.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I probably would consider them, but their phones tend to have lackluster US carrier/band support and lack of security updates. Coupling that with the high price tag, no go.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Posted from my Xperia 5.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I loved my Xperia XA2, but when the next android update came down the pipe I literally lost features.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I used to have an Xperia pro, the one with the physical keyboard. It was my last keyboard phone. I absolutely loved it.

Flashed a different OS, cyanogenmod I believe, which broke the governor chip (irreparable; known issue but super buried, would have done the same with any OS of that version number, including stock) so it would read as a dead battery if not on the charger.

Never touched Sony phones again. Don’t trust them at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I miss my Xperia Play, that thing was the bee's knees.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I was planning on getting an Xperia 1 VI.

Gonna flash LineageOS on it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have the 1 VI, it's great. No lineage available yet, might take a while

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[–] m4m4m4m4 2 points 2 months ago

I got a 1ii and though LineageOS works great compared to stock, it still has its downsides - on the top of my head screen mirroring is lost and since LOS21 can't make Magisk w/ zigisk work.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Does Sony still make phones ? ... The last time I saw someone using a Sony phone was probably 8 years ago

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Sony phones are great for custom firmware support

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago
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