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Mother of Gabriel Infante, 24, sues employer for $1m, saying construction workers had no protections from extreme heat

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[–] ClockworkOtter 134 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Infante later died in a hospital from severe heatstroke and had a recorded internal temperature of 109.8F (43.2C). The Center for Disease Control states a body temperature of 103F (39.4C) or higher is a main symptom of heatstroke.

The poor man was fucking cooked alive and the foreman wanted to do a piss test! I wish Abbott and his funders could experience that.

[–] kite 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

109.8

And that's in the hospital, after he'd had a chance to cool down some in the ambulance, and I'm sure EMS started IV fluids as well, which would have also cooled him. I bet his temp was a good bit higher than 109.8 at its highest.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'll never be without air conditioning.

[–] ClockworkOtter 7 points 1 year ago

Oh, I wasn't suggesting to give them the option. Literally just leave them out in the desert.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So let's pass a law that removes any requirement in Texas to allow construction workers to drink water while they are working... That'll fix things.

Fucking evil shit.

[–] elbowdrop 77 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck them. Require a licensed doctor on site observing the workers. Fuck this I think your on drugs bullshit. Why the actual fuck would Texas take away water breaks? How much more value is that aqueezing out of your workers. I think this lady deserves WAY more than a million. You kill an employee due to neglect, pay a billion. But that's too high. It's supposed to be a punishment. Fuck it. A billion a year forever.

[–] gAlienLifeform 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're taking away the workers'rights to get water breaks, not the supervisors' rights to give them. So, if you're a happy and compliant little drone who kisses enough ass maybe you'll get one, and making workers' feel the need to do things like that is where the real value in this lies for the bosses I think.

[–] SmarfDurden 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You know, before this I really thought access to water was one of the few things conservatives wouldn’t have a problem with. They’re sadists

[–] Mirshe 18 points 1 year ago

Those 5 minutes you're drinking water COULD be spent making money for the company! Think of the bottom line! /s

That's literally what this is. I'm sure whoever proposed the bill had a friend who runs a construction or landscaping company complaining that their workers are taking too much time on break because they're hot.

[–] PhoenixRising 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SmarfDurden 12 points 1 year ago

That one at least makes sense (for them) since they wanna kill or deter dem voters. But yeah, nothing is off the table for them. Fuck them

[–] marron12 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The power dynamic is already heavily skewed in favor of the employer. Especially with construction and landscaping work, the way it tends to go is: workers need the job. The company rules with a pretty strict hand. You don't like something, there's the door. So you put up with stuff until you find another job or can't take it anymore.

Take away a legal right, and that's that. The workers and the company both know who has the upper hand. Sure, one person could try to stick up for themselves here and there, but plenty of people don't because they're afraid to lose their job. And it usually doesn't change anything anyway. Even when there are laws to protect employees, companies don't always follow them.

I'm talking mostly about non-union jobs there. Union jobs are better, but they're not free of problems either.

[–] ScoobyDoo27 6 points 1 year ago

And don’t forget in those industries you see a lot of workers who may not be legal so they have to put up with the companies bullshit. It’s not like they can get the law involved even if they wanted to. Companies know this and abuse their workforce heavily because of it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It's so insane. Let's say they are on drugs. Does that make it okay to let them die? You should still try to get them help.

[–] Weirdfish 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I got pretty bad heat stroke once while running in Texas. Was in the military, and due to a stupid miscommunication was told I was not allowed to drink water.

Lap or two later and I started having symptoms I'd never experienced before.

I can 100% believe that my look and behavior could have been mistaken for drug use.

I had stopped sweating, looked pale and disoriented, I'm sure I was not speaking clearly. My friend grabbed me and dragged me to a water fountain.

Once I had time to recover, get some A/C, and rehydrate, I was pretty much fine, though I remember having one hell of a headache like a hangover.

[–] Mirshe 18 points 1 year ago

Yeah, you start acting this way because your brain literally starts to boil in your skull. Over a certain temperature, your sweat glands start dying and so your body has no other effective ways to shed heat from your core.

Well There's Your Problem just had a very horrifying episode about heatstroke - they had a physical therapist on to talk about the Jordan McNair heatstroke case in 2018 at U Maryland.

[–] MoonshineDegreaser 8 points 1 year ago

3 times in my life I can tell you that I had heat exhaustion. One time I thought I was going to have to go to the hospital. It is the absolute worse feeling I've ever experienced

[–] Ginjutsu 30 points 1 year ago

Greg Abbot can fucking burn for all I care. Fuck that piece of shit cunt right up his ass.

[–] exothermic 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A million dollars is hardly enough. The lawsuit should be for the dollar amount of his lifetime worth of gainful employment. Anything less is despicable and wrong.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

and then times it by 10. If it bankrupts the company so be it.

I work in construction. We have a re-roof job running right now. They go through almost a pallet of water every day and are required to have x amount of rest in shade. When it got to hot the hours were moved to night till mid day to protect them from the heat.

If they suspected him of being on drugs they should have pulled him from the job site immediately once symptoms were showing. Anything less is a danger to the employee as well as everyone else on the site.

What this company did was illegal, morally wrong and down right evil.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, as if being on drugs means they don't need help and should return to work. Insane.

[–] MajorHavoc 10 points 1 year ago

When a corporation kills a human, we should dissolve it, sell it's assets, and turn the money raised over to the victim's next of kin.

We can see how long it takes for stockholders to vote in favor of safety regulations after we do that a few times.

[–] Blamemeta 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Problem is, heatstroke looks like drugs to idiots, and Ive never met one who wasn't an idiot.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never met what that wasn't an idiot? People?

[–] Blamemeta 17 points 1 year ago

Bosses, managers, especially in the construction industry.

[–] TwoGems 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If we ever get rid of the fascism in the USA Abbott or other fascists should be expelled from the U.S. Same for Ted Cruz.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Expelled for crimes against humanity? Do a Nuremberg trial II and let the judges decide their punishment.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Lol the Nuremberg trials were overshadowed by the cold War and many war criminals got leniency for cooperation.

Not the best example

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't feel like exile is a strong enough deterrent.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 1 year ago

Depends on where they're exiled to. I suggest Afghanistan.

[–] MoonshineDegreaser 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Good way to m lose your business license if you aren't a general contractor. But since they are, supervisor is getting fired and nothing else is going to change.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Working someone until they die of heatstroke should be a murder charge, not risk losing a damned business license. What a sick society.

[–] MoonshineDegreaser 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're absolutely right. However there were rules and amenities put in place way before we were born

I'll give you an example. When I worked as a utility locator, I caught a GC's team doing HARD drugs on a construction site. I reported it to the county. Nothing happened. Same team, same habits. I would speak to the GC directly about their teams, and they didn't care.

A week passes and the entire site is roped off with police tape. A heavy machinery operator from that team ended up running a cleaner over in one of those JLG cherry pickers with the monster truck tires. Turns out he had meth and thc in his system. He was fired. No charges towards the individual or the GC because it was chalked up to a workplace accident.

Now why were they able to get away with that you ask? GC's have to maintain state and county contracts and they even do work for the counties and states. They literally have all the power when it comes to construction. The only real way to get a GC shut down is if there are multiple accidents resulting in an unusual number of injuries or death. But even then, that's usually when the feds and OSHA get involved

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn’t hurt that the GCs will often just lose envelopes full of cash around where certain regulators, investigators, and politicians live.

It’s just by accident - those envelopes are just too damn easy to lose.

[–] MoonshineDegreaser 2 points 1 year ago

AND when they do get caught in something of that nature, they don't really shut down. They change the company name under a new license and then magically get all the contracts that the previous company had

[–] marx2k 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also... is Texas.

I'm surprised they need licensing at all

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't actually have to be licensed to be a contractor in Texas.

[–] marx2k 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn, and I thought I was being funny

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Texas does a good enough job of it on its own.

[–] EricHill78 16 points 1 year ago

I live in the city this happened. I couldn't even imagine what it would be like to do physical work in this weather. May he RIP.

[–] marx2k 10 points 1 year ago

The inevitable conservative argument: "If we didn't have open borders, construction companies would need to cater to their employees better because they'd have less competition from cheap labor. Thanks Biden"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

It's time for other countries to come fuck up America.