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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Next post: I have to buy 4 new tires and body-shop repair when they forced me off the road! Where do I submit my Declaration of Grievance to be reimbursed!?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 14 points 4 months ago

How do I pay for my new tires with magic coupon wizardry?

[–] partial_accumen 18 points 4 months ago (4 children)

What does that advice accomplish except to escalate a situation where you're being pulled over and risking additional criminal charges? What private property owner is going to say "yeah stay there as long as you like Sovcit"?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 9 points 4 months ago

The entertainment of the property owner?

[–] VelvetStorm 8 points 4 months ago

I think they may mean like Walmart or mall parking lots. It's actually a good idea to pull over into one if it is within eyeshot. It's much safer for you, and if you pop your flashers on, the police will typically know you are pulling over in a lot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

If I've learned anything from reading this sub, I'd refuse to let the cops take the car. I'd send the sovcit my fee schedule for storing their property.

[–] Rhynoplaz 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Although I'm not sympathetic to the SovCits, I'd still let them park there. Fuck the police!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Right. There should be no enforcement of traffic laws. Everyone for themselves out there, guys.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

A lot of traffic enforcement is revenue generation. It really is road piracy for the sake of getting money, and not for keeping people safe. If you want people to slow down, install more speed bumps. Put speed cameras in your school zones, on your main thoroughfares, and leave them there forever. Build better public transportation and bicycle lanes so that people have less reason to drive, which will clearly increased traffic safety.

Also, the biggest group of bad drivers, of illegal drivers, is the police themselves. You never see them ticket themselves, do you. Clearly they don't believe the law is keeping people safe, or they would be following it.

That's not to say there shouldn't be any traffic laws at all, but most traffic enforcement on the streets is not keeping people safe, and it's not intended to keep people safe.

[–] LifeOfChance 1 points 4 months ago

As long as they're comfortable with me watching/recording and not being involved anymore than giving explicit permission I'm fine with that. They're gonna provide me with entertainment in trade. You know it's gonna escalate and maybe I'll get a viral video from it at the very least a funny video and story!

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't think this was just a sovcit thing, I have always been told to do this and do so if practical. Cop flicks lights on, pull into plaza parking lot and park. Safer for the police as they are not on the street, they usually will pull behind you so they know you won't be able to back out to run. If they arrest you, most restaurants, grocery stores, etc won't tow your car if you leave it overnight.

Also smart to turn on the overhead light, turn music down/off and put your hands on the steering wheel so they can see exactly where they are.

[–] BreadstickNinja 10 points 4 months ago

Ah, the "Grand Theft Auto" rule. Lots of videos on YouTube of people getting arrested at home, confused that pulling into their driveway didn't reset all the stars they built up during the police chase.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

State and local laws are obviously a big varying factor here, but:

1.	If the Vehicle is Parked Legally: If you pull into a private driveway and your vehicle is parked legally, meaning it does not block traffic or pose any safety hazards, the police typically would not tow your vehicle without the property owner’s permission. However, they can still ticket you and potentially arrest you if other laws have been violated (like attempting to evade the police).
2.	If the Vehicle is Parked Illegally or is a Hazard: If your car is parked in a way that blocks the driveway, creates a traffic hazard, or if the property owner complains, the police may have grounds to tow the vehicle, possibly even without the property owner’s immediate permission.
3.	Private Property Rights: Private property owners generally have rights over what happens on their property. However, if the police believe there is an exigent circumstance or that a law has been violated that justifies towing, they might proceed with the tow and sort out the details later.
4.	Exigent Circumstances: If the police believe that your car is part of an ongoing investigation (e.g., it was used in a crime or you were attempting to flee from law enforcement), they may have the authority to tow the vehicle regardless of whether it is on private property.
5.	Local Laws: Local ordinances or state laws can vary widely on this issue, so the specific circumstances and jurisdiction will greatly affect what the police can legally do.