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[–] Lemminary 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I didn't hate the system but how it encouraged mindless reposting. I kinda liked seeing big number go up, yanno? Kinda miss that but also glad that we don't have it here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep. I think it’s nice we don’t have it here, so you can easily change instances to get a better instance for your account without worrying about loosing your “karma points”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

loosing

*losing :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think that karma is an extremely poorly thought system, because it worsens every single issue with content voting system, such as:

  • fluff principle - content that is the easiest to judge takes over, unless you take specific measures to prevent it
  • subjectivity - what's "good" for a user might be rubbish for another, and vice versa, so the content surfacing will be the lowest common denominator
  • undue reposting - since content already highly upvoted will be likely highly upvoted in the future
  • demographic concentration - people hang around larger communities because they post more in those, since those will yield more upvotes
  • hivemind - more popular opinions are made even more visible than less popular ones, discouraging people from speaking their minds; etc.

because, even if the karma score means jack shit, people will feel encouraged to hoard karma instead of posting what would be more to the spirit of the relevant communities that they participate on.

Another issue of a karma system is that it enables that idiotic mod practice of gatekeeping communities behind karma points. I could go on a full rant about this, but let me not.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago
[–] Humanius 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Do you mean the concept of up- / downvoting posts and comments in order to determine a suitable order, or do you mean the tally of all your up- / downvotes being displayed as a number on your profile.

As for the up- / downvoting, while it isn't perfect, and it sometimes encourages people to only upvote things they agree with rather than being accurate, it is a pretty good metric to get relevant posts and comments to the top.

And as for the numerical tally.. It's easily ignored. I didn't particularly mind it on Reddit, but I also don't mind its absence on Lemmy.
~~Seeing the number go up on my individual posts gives my monkey brain enough of a dopamine boost~~

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You're going to get a lot of agreement here: Lemmy decided not to implement it for users. We still use votes on posts and comments, and you can sort by them, but no one gets scored by his many they have, and I think that's a good thing. Lots of folks on Reddit modify their behavior specifically to generate karma, and often not in good ways.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This isn’t universal, and any client can implement it if they really wanted to.

The one good thing about karma was the ability to quickly tell who was likely around just to fuck with people. If you peek at their profile and see -100 karma, you know they are just a troll and can be ignored.

Other than that, yeah the system was pointless beyond “look at me my number is bigger”

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 3 points 3 months ago

It was also annoying how much it drove some people to make one line jokes or recycled copypasta in every single thread, looking for the quick upvotes. It made some threads unreadable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

yeah and some subreddits dont let you post if you have low karma or negetive karma

[–] MataVatnik 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I just liked gaming the system. And I bet so did a lot of others, which I think was part of the problem.

After getting piled on when trying to have sincere conversations (on things that weren't even controversial) I just made reddit accounts for trolling and mocking reddit users. Pandering and satirizing. And for yelling at clouds and shitting on others.

Overall, shitty system that encourages shitty behavior.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago
[–] Carighan 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How do you mean?

Do people actually look at a person's Karma? I just see up/downvotes on stuff.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Carighan 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How do you mean? The up-/downvotes? Like here?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah and it will decrease increase your points

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I enjoyed the concept, but then it turned into just reposting and trash posts for karma mining. then I switched to Lemmy and ditched Reddit completely and no longer care about anything Reddit does

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Agree Reddit sucks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I earned 70$ when Reddit experimented paying users for each upvote in r/cc. But it wasn't worth it and it ruined the sub

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I rememeber reddit had nfts I didnt know reddit paid you in crypto

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was called "moons" but they scammed everyone eventually by rug pulling their crypto. Of course they will never face justice

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago