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They really are Nazis at this point, aren't they.
They're fascists, not nazis. I'm not saying that to castigate you but to make your point bullet proof.
Nazis are a very specific kind of anti Jewish (amongst other things) fascists.
Zionists are ethno-Fascists - Fascism linked to ethnicity rather than the nationalism of traditional Fascism - complete with things like ethnic superiority beliefs (and a general belief in some ethnicities being ubermensch and others untermensch), accusing critics of that Fascism of being against the ethnicity and surrounding themselves with the symbology related to the ethnicity.
It's the same kind of Fascism as the NAZIS - who claimed to represent the Arian Race - had, complete with rabid racism and inhuman levels of murderous behavior against members of ethnicities deemed untermensch (who Zionists literally call "human animals") and not at all the same kind of Fascism as, say, Mussolini (in Italy) or Franco (in Spain).
Zionism is far closer to NAZIsm than any other ideology, including all other Fascist ideologies, and their words and actions reflect that, so calling them NAZIs as a shortcut makes sense because that's pretty much what they are, with the main difference being the ethnicity they claim to represent.
Sure, you can say they haven't committed a Holocaust and the NAZIs did, but then again the NAZIs too didn't start by committing a Holocaust - that only came later because nobody stood up against them until it was too late, exactly the same as being done with regards to the Zionists.
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The Nazis weren't just anti-Jewish, they were anti-anyone who isn't Aryan. While the people here are basically only showing anti-Arab sentiments, if they held the same view to all other races then they would be analogous to Nazis.
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They have been for a very, very long time. It’s only now that we’re hearing about what they really do out there.
Many points ago. Many, many points ago.
Always were.
How can anyone defend this?
Well, you see, their enemies are brown.
- slightly browner than them
With fascist ideas
What's a Nukhba?
The israeli term for Palestinian since october.
Originally it meant elite Hamas forces which participated in the attack. But israel just calls every Palestinian they kidnap or kill a 'Nukhba fighter". Easy way to justify any war crime. Everything is Hamas.
Seems the difference between an Isreali prisoner and a Hamas hostage is literally just the amount of paperwork generated.
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members of the military directed pepper spray at the military police who came to detain the soldiers.
Holy shit! It's one thing when fascist politicians and their other brainwashed supporters resist justice, but when soldiers attack soldiers, "potential civil war" isn't even hyperbole anymore!
In a country where almost all 18-21 year olds are in the army, you will have shit like that
It's almost like universal conscription is a bad idea that negatively affects people!
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If you don't support the Israeli army raping people you are antisemite
important s/ because people don't even know anymore
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I think the only remotely sane person in the room was the one at the end who shouted "there are things you don't do". Albeit they're all advocating for genocide, so none of them are respectable.
In the past Israel got away with everything by simply denying all allegations. That one politician realized they need to keep up the facade. The rest of them do not believe they have to hide their crimes anymore. Now they say out loud what they have meant the past eighty years.
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Justice Minister Yariv Levin said he was “shocked to see harsh pictures of soldiers being arrested”, according to Haaretz.
Khaled Mahajna, a lawyer with the Commission of Detainees and Ex-Detainees Affairs, shared the abuse recounted by two Palestinian detainees. One of them, a journalist, described witnessing rapes of detainees from Gaza inside the Sde Teiman facility, which has been compared to Guantanamo prison.
Another detainee was stripped naked, electrocuted and subjected to sexual abuse, Mahajna said.
“One Palestinian inmate died with a ruptured spleen and broken ribs after being beaten by Israeli prison guards. Another met an excruciating end because a chronic condition went untreated. A third screamed for help for hours before dying,” the newspaper said.
Stop being so harsh guys, jeez! I'm guessing they wouldn't be shocked to see "harsh" pictures of abused Palestinians.
Do that many people in Israel really support this?
I guess Lemmy doesn't have a big enough Israeli community to answer that, but I have a hard time picturing an analogue for this in other countries.
I would think they detest the act, but they would argue it wasn't rape because legally only a citizen can be raped and that the victims were traumatized repeatedly weren't citizens.
And they will be angry at you for making them think about it.
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Ok, just to answer this propaganda piece for future readers: Israel is now going through a faschist overtake. Israel's faschist government's actions are being objected by most Israelis, most past Israely politician 's from past MP's to past PM's. Most Israeli elites and most people involved in homeland security. There are active protests against the government and people are being arrested for it. Hope Democracy will win, you may continue the propanda now
The amount of protesters against the government is a tiny minority. Most of them do not even care about Palestinians but want the hostages back and their economy out of shambles.
Israel is an Apartheid not a democracy. The ICJ has recently ruled so.
I've heard worse excuses for a civil war...
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