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[–] chemical_cutthroat 149 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'd like this a lot more if it wasn't dumping oil into the sea...

[–] hoshikarakitaridia 60 points 4 months ago

Yeah. The nature devastation kinda takes the fun out of it...

[–] NegativeInf 17 points 4 months ago (5 children)

100,000 tons of crude. Who's responsible for mopping this around for PR before it finally sinks to the bottom?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't hold your breath. "People waiting to be saved in the Middle East" is a long list, and I assume the seabirds are low down.

What is a typical rate of actual recovery after an oil spill?

[–] rottingleaf 8 points 4 months ago

There's an even longer list of "people not waiting anymore to be saved in the Middle East", where entries are usually permanent.

[–] lemmylommy 7 points 4 months ago

Just tow the boat out of the environment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it sinks. I think it floats until it ends up on a coast somewhere.

[–] NegativeInf 2 points 4 months ago

I was just thinking of all the tar balls and tar logs and polluted animal life sinking into the abyss, but generally, yea, I think it does just wash up places.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If it’s like oil spills in the U.S., volunteers with Dawn soap and maybe some of the costs will be felt by the oil company after 25 years of litigation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 4 months ago

Who's going to try and risk getting sunk by a drone or a missile?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Hear me out: If it's on fire it destroys more of the climate and less of the ocean... (not sure if win tho)

[–] FlyingSquid 77 points 4 months ago (6 children)

The people here praising the Houthis seem to think they knew who they were attacking rather than just seeing a ship pass by and attacking it, which is what they actually do.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And in general I didn't expect to see praise for a group that has "A Curse Upon the Jews" as part of their official slogan.

[–] FlyingSquid 29 points 4 months ago (24 children)

There are certain people on Lemmy who support the Houthis because they claim what they are doing supports Gaza. It does not. They aren't stopping Israel from doing anything by doing this... but there are people here who have this ridiculous "enemy of my enemy is my friend regardless of what they actually accomplish or what their real goals are" attitude which baffles me. The Houthis are awful. They have killed a huge number of people, including children, just like Israel. But hey, they're declared enemies of Israel, so we can just overlook that little issue.

I've seen people even praise theocracies like Iran for the same reason.

It's ridiculous.

[–] Cryophilia 6 points 4 months ago

“enemy of my enemy is my friend regardless of what they actually accomplish or what their real goals are” attitude

See also: "America bad, therefore Russia good"

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Will be interesting how this will affect Russia's uninsured/self insured vessels going forward. As they've been cut off from all maritime insurers with the sanctions, they will have to cover this one themselves. It will hurt.

[–] RestrictedAccount 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait just a ding dong minute….

Iran is attacking Russia and China at the same time?

[–] Aqarius 21 points 4 months ago

It's almost as if everyone the west hates isn't a big hivemind. Who knew?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

Newsweek has such shit journalism, man:

Yemen's Houthi rebels continued their attacks in the Red Sea by targeting two tankers in 24 hours, including a vessel carrying Russian oil likely heading to Asia, where China is the region's largest buyer.

That's the only justification given... Even though, y'know, India has been the largest buyer of seaborne Russian oil since the sanctions and is also, shockingly, in Asia. Meanwhile, it's summer and the Northern Sea Route is viable, cutting the transport distance almost in half.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

lol cry more, russia

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago
[–] Linkerbaan 7 points 4 months ago

Houthis attacking all three imperial superpowers at once holy based.

[–] FauxPseudo 6 points 4 months ago

What an unfortunate thing to happen on free dozen eggs night.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Awww but I thought Russia and China were their friend? Did they finally realize the neo-USSR power bloc is an equally uncaring imperialistic resource extractor that only gave a shit because the Houthis were going to be inconvenient for the US?

[–] rottingleaf 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Houthis are Shia and their friends are Iran and Hezbollah. Russia is an unreliable transactional partner of their friends, and also Russia is doing a lot of licking up to Turks and Sunni terrorists.

So - they know the situation very well.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Right, but they previously had an active diplomatic agreement allowing any Russia or China affiliated ships to pass untouched..

Clearly something has changed since then, something that makes them think receiving any Russian support (even indirectly) is not worth it.

[–] Rakonat 14 points 4 months ago

I'm more likely to believe the Houthis just fucked up here, retaliatory strikes disabled their ability to discriminate targets they want to strike and those they don't. Or the people they have launching the missiles not properly trained and educated on how to confirm targets. While there is a possibility this was an intentional strike on a Russian flagged ship, I have my own doubts given their general history with Russia and China and previous statements.

[–] rottingleaf 2 points 4 months ago

Perhaps Russia broke some other agreement and they responded.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

uncrewed surface vessel

Wait, are drone oil tankers a thing now?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

The Houthis launched an uncrewed surface vessel attacking MT Chios Lion, a Liberian-flagged, Marshall Islands-owned, Greek-operated crude oil tanker, according to a statement put out by the United States Military's Central Command on Tuesday.

No, the attack vessel was the drone

[–] BombOmOm 5 points 4 months ago

Not that I'm aware of. The uncrewed surface vessel in this case was one of the attacking vessels.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago
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