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I feel like not enough people appreciate the simple fact that Wikipedia is essentially the most well-organized and complete collection of human knowledge in existence, and furthermore, it's available to everyone who has access to the internet for free in dozens of languages.

There are tens of thousands of individuals collaborating every hour of every day to collect knowledge and share it with the rest of the world purely out of the desire to document and teach, and millions of people spending hours in the Wikipedia rabbit hole learning about subjects that they would have had no opportunity to without it.

Wikipedia is amazing. It's the modern Library of Alexandria.

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[–] QubaXR 65 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wikipedia and Archive.org are two of the most fantastic projects in existence. Their contributions to humanity rival NASA imho.

[–] wutamisposedtodo 15 points 1 year ago

Oh man, how could I have forgotten to mention archive.org??

My favorite thing on there is the Old Time Radio Researcher's Group who maintain a huge archive of radio shows produced between 1920 and the 1960s (and some from later years as well such as CBS Radio Mystery Theater).

I've been listening through the most well-known shows for about the last 10 years and I still haven't even listened to them all and there are dozens of other more obscure shows!

[–] ThePowerOfGeek 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree. And this makes me wonder: of they both disappeared due to some catastrophic event, would it be remembered through the ages in a similar way to the destruction of the Library of Alexandria?

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce 11 points 1 year ago

Wikipedia isn’t going anywhere unless most of humanity and our tech is gone. Tons of people take “backups” of it all the time. (Shout out to my fellow datahoarders). If you only get the text, it’s not very large at all.

It’ll easily fit on phones these days.

https://www.howtogeek.com/260023/how-to-download-wikipedia-for-offline-at-your-fingertips-reading/

[–] macintosh 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Internet archive? Likely. It has an archive of a large portion of the beginnings of the internet, which will likely be a major historical source in the future.

Wikipedia? I’m unsure. It’s a collection of information obtained via various sources, most of which would still be extant. Not to put down the work of their project, it is very important. But it’s not impossible to replace like the way back machine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Archive is already used as a historical source in some cases, including as the source of many citations on Wikipedia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are the sites with other top level domains like archive.is the same company? I've seen requests to donate to various Archive sites but I can tell if they are all the same company.

[–] QubaXR 2 points 1 year ago

Not sure about these. Archive.org is a depository of free music, videos, books, articles, games and many other cultural artifacts at risk of getting lost to time. One of their coolest projects is the Wayback Machine which backs up pretty much entire Internet. Want to see what first version of Amazon looked like, or browse an obscure geocities page no longer available? Yup, they most likely have it backed up.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

As an ex-contributor, what goes on behind the scenes is absolutely wild. If you're ever bored and want something to take over your life... Start editing Wikipedia.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Me when I check some minor article and I notice some questionable things, go into the talk page, and observe the fireworks behind the scenes

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Thank you for your service

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wikipedia is one of the few online orgs that I donate to every year. Even if I can only throw a couple of bucks their way, I usually try to gift at least $20 or something.

[–] wutamisposedtodo 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same here! I have a monthly donation going, and the $2 is well worth the hundreds of hours I've spent on it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If i found a genie, one of my 3 wishes would be that reddit was viewed like Wikipedia. It should be a non-profit. I'd gladly donate to keep the servers up. I do that for Lemmy now.

If I want to know something, I'm either looking at Wikipedia for general information, or reddit for specific. The odds that someone else has asked the same question on reddit it weirdly high. Even Google acknowledged that there search results went to shit because of the blackouts. How did we let such a wealth of knowledge get caught up in profits.

I love Wikipedia. Even if it has flaws, it's by far one of the best things we've created a humanity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would like to see Jimmy Wales run Twitter and Reddit clones. If there is anyone that you can trust to not turn a website into a commercial entity, it's the guy running one of the world's most visited site with no advertising.

Maybe Wikimedia can host Mastodon and Lemmy server.

Either him or the guy who runs Craigslist, with no obvious intentions of trying to wring money out his site

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Isn't the wiki media foundation planning a reddit like site?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

When it first came out people ridiculed it and thought it would fail and never reach the quality of encyclopedias.

[–] beefbaby182 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we all just take a moment to stop and appreciate just how much content Wikipedia delivers to us completely ad-fucking-free???

Oftentimes, I find myself just skipping a search engine entirely and going straight to Wikipedia first.

[–] MossBear 2 points 1 year ago

The power of community driven projects! Tis' a beautiful thing.

[–] AB7ORH7D 1 points 1 year ago

Have you heard of Obsidian? It's basically a note-taking/journaling app that allows you to link entries to other entries similar to Wikipedia. Overtime you create a wiki of your mind and experiences. It's also free and saves your files in markdown.

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