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[–] StinkyOnions 108 points 5 months ago (27 children)

Now, where are all those users who said Jill Stein wasn't a Russian asset?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago

Linkerbaan is going to be so hyped about his boy Cornel (who is totally not controlled opposition /s) getting a shout-out.

[–] Buffalox 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] StinkyOnions 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's an actual community? Haha, pathetic.

[–] Buffalox 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I just posted the OP story there. I commented there once calling her a Russian puppet, and linked a story about it, which they called biased, despite everything was documented including pictures of lunch with Putin, and of course it was removed.

[–] ccunning 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure you’re the only person to post there other than jimmydoreisalefty

I (briefly) accidentally downvoted you out of habit before realizing this is not the usual propaganda

[–] Buffalox 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I didn't post there earlier, only commented, Maybe the reason my post is the only one that isn't jimmydoreisalefty, is that it hasn't been deleted yet?
Previously I commented on this post: https://lemmy.world/post/16567090

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"I'm not Russian!" - angry orange

[–] CharlesDarwin 3 points 5 months ago

Ryan: “What’s said in the family stays in the family.”

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[–] nexguy 48 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Both West and Stein support Putin's genocide in Ukraine by being against Ukraine defending itself. Trump also has that reason to like them.

[–] DMBFFF 0 points 5 months ago

They certainly seem less concerned about it, but they seem to oppose the Gazan genocide better than Biden or Trump.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I learned today that Cornel West thinks the world would be safer without NATO. I won’t say that’s the only geopolitical opinion he felt strongly enough about to issue a press release about, but I had to go six months back to find another one, which makes a total of two that I’m aware of.

“Let’s not support Israel while they kill Palestinians,” of course, is honestly a pretty sensible and congruous number one… “why NATO is bad” and Ukraine, on the other hand, is a very surprising and unusual one to be number 2.

[–] rockSlayer 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Opposition to NATO is a pretty milquetoast opinion on the socialist left due to its' part in the continued exploitation and neo-imperialism of the global south. I'm also opposed to NATO, but I don't think it should be dismantled. Rather it should be turned into an international climate change relief agency.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm just saying most left people I know who want to reign in the excesses of US hegemony care about US military adventures in the Middle East, or interventions in Central America, or immigration policy, or neoliberal trade restrictions against weaker economic powers... it's highly unusual for the second thing on the list to be this particular European military alliance that is highly consensual and pretty productive for everyone who's a part of it, and which is targeted almost entirely (now that it's not the late 1990s anymore) at one particular big geopolitical power that they don't have any particular love for any more than they do for the US. If we were talking about reigning them in back when they were bombing the fuck out of the former Yugoslavia, then yeah I wouldn't bat an eye at it, but... I'm not saying it's impossible that someone from the left managed to authentically arrive at the conclusion that out of all the possible awful things the US does on the world stage, NATO's the urgent problem that needs to be torn down. But I think in comparison to the other obvious explanation, it seems a little implausible, quite honestly.

[–] Eldritch 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

Only on the accelerationist left. No one is saying NATO is great. That's not an argument that can be made. But it's insane to genuinely believe the world would be better or much different in its absence.

NATO for all it's sins is a tool. That could be just as easily leveraged for good. That is if we stop self sabotaging. Instead showing some solidarity and working towards coalitions that could actually stand and represent the Common Man against the wealthy.

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[–] capital 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trump understands FPTP systems better than many here it seems.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

All I want for Christmas is Approval Voting and proportional representation.

[–] scottrepreneur 3 points 5 months ago

Please santa

[–] capital 1 points 5 months ago
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