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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 3 points 1 day ago

Conservatives:

(But not if it makes me feel like I’m losing anything, or if I have to pay any taxes for it)

[–] Asidonhopo 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

IMHO foolish to focus on the most vulnerable rather than how most people are vulnerable in some way or another and putting foremost in policy messaging changes that would help large numbers of people.

I sympathize with the plight of trans folks and other smaller disadvantaged minority groups but half of Americans are barely making ends meet, and America is falling further behind in manufacturing, infrastructure and technology/research, all while bathroom bills and grooming narratives are decade+ old very effective wedge issues.

Help the most vulnerable certainly but put front and foremost how the vast majority would be helped if you want to motivate voters and win converts.

[–] LengAwaits 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A rising tide lifts all boats.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Weirdly enough, it was Adam Smith, the first proto-capitalist, that came up with that idea.

He clearly hadn't foreseen the possibility of monopolies and abusive trade practices.

[–] Asidonhopo 6 points 1 day ago

That's what I'm saying, that's a winning message, rather than focusing on hauling ashore the few boats deemed most deserving by whatever metric and implying the others are less important and can wait.

[–] PugJesus 69 points 2 days ago (29 children)

Don't worry, the people who need to listen to this will take one look at this and say "Well, I'M voting with my HEART", because their heart tells them to do everything they can to enable fascism in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

The struggling landlord who isn't even being tipped 😭

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This will also work for conservatives, though. They will imsist that the most vulnerable people are unborn children, therefore they should vote anti-abortion

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Will = have been for decades and will continue to do so. Up next is contraception because they will act like unfertilized eggs are children next.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

"I'm sure letting the fascists win chasing the rapturous dream that this time surely it will teach the DNC "its lesson" is 100% in the interests of that trans kid! And I get to make that judgement call because the list the fascists put out says how much further down the kill list I am from them!"

[–] ekZepp 18 points 2 days ago
[–] NeptuneOrbit 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Idk.

On the one hand Trump might go to prison for the rest of his life if he loses this election.

On the other hand most of my policy goals are at least considered by Biden.

So I think I'll ignore you and happily vote to send Trump to prison.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Children in the foster care system. Absolutely the most vulnerable. So few care. No parades. No flags. No days, or weeks. No corporate acknowledgement, sincere or not.

Go ahead and downvote me. They're used to it.

[–] gmtom 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Go ahead and downvote me. They're used to it.

I was fully with you until this bit.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil 20 points 2 days ago

Go ahead and downvote me. They’re used to it.

When you downvote me, this is who you're really downvoting

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[–] hark 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The most vulnerable people I know are being targeted by a campaign of genocide. How do I vote in their best interests?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Assuming you're talking about Palestine, probably the one that hasn't told donors that he plans to crush protests and deport demonstrators on the matter

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (9 children)
[–] Anomaline 14 points 2 days ago

Literally nobody is performing gender-affirming surgery on minors. It's difficult enough to get as an adult lmao

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Uhm...yeah. Everybody is against gender affirming surgery for minors.

Contrary to what right-wing media likes to claim, it doesn't happen.

What does happen for transgender youth is puberty blockers. That allows them to delay the hormonal changes of puberty so that they may make an easier physical transition, if they so choose, when they are an adult. In the meantime, trans girls can more easily tuck and won't develop a 5 o'clock shadow or deep voice, trans boys will not be growing breasts or menstruating, and both retain more a more gender-ambiguous frame.

But puberty blockers have other uses besides gender-affirming care, and they've long been proven incredibly safe and non-permanent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While I can see that early intervention with puberty blockers would help transgirls, it seems like transboys would need to take something more than just testosterone to get the height growth, once they reach the age of majority. HGH, maybe?

It's interesting how much of the language around anti-trans rights centers around 'men pretending to be women, and they entirely forget about transmen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I'm not a doctor, but my laymen understanding is that it doesn't stop puberty, it just delays it. So they end up going through a normal puberty, just at a later age.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Ever heard of Project 2025?

It calls for barring transgender people from the military and to stop what it considers the “toxic normalization of transgenderism” across the government and American society. It seeks to abolish the president’s Gender Policy Council, “which it views as promoting abortion and the ‘new woke gender ideology,’”

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[–] mecfs 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And disabled or chronically ill people!

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[–] Sorgan71 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The most vulnerable person is a black trans woman, she is also a conservative, I did not think people like her existed until I met her.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 10 points 2 days ago

She's in the sunken place.

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