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[–] [email protected] 227 points 6 months ago (3 children)

We can't even come together to wear a peice of cloth to slow the spread of a virus.

[–] [email protected] 152 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Actually we DID. Tho' only for a little while. And the results were enormous. The B/Yamgata Influenza lineage appears to have gone extinct. The cool part is we weren't even trying to do anything with those specific efforts to affect influenza. All of which should encourage us to cooperate more.

[–] Potatisen 47 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Please give us more cool facts!

[–] rtxn 48 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Doctor Ignaz Semmelweiss in the mid-1800s suggested that obstetricians should wash and sterilize their hands before attending their patients to reduce the chance of postpartum infection. He was rejected by the medical community, ridiculed by colleagues, and eventually locked in an asylum where he was killed.

We're sliding back in time.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

People forget the most important bit. The clapback to Semmelweiss from other doctors was "A doctor's hands are always clean!"

Humans are irrational fucking idiots and we prove it daily. The number of us who are willing to protect our own in-group over things they don't deserve to be protected over is too damn high.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"A doctor's hands are always clean!"

That's when Semmelweiss should have rubbed dog shit on his hands and tried to rub them on these doctors' face.

[–] ripcord 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

We can’t even come together to wear a peice of cloth to slow the spread of a virus.

  • No one washes their hands — Increased infection rates.
  • Research doctors don't work — Reduced cure research speed.
  • Sick people given hugs — Infectivity increased once spotted.
    -- Plague Inc. description of Easy Difficulty (Written before the 2020 COVID-19 Lockdown)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil 14 points 6 months ago (7 children)

The cloth does nothing to stop the virus but also completely cuts off oxygen to your brain.

No I will not explain. It's your job to educate yourself by watching more Jordan Peterson videos.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago

I know it's stupid but /s really should be mandatory if you arennot serious. Because there are too many prople that are

[–] demonsword 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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[–] grue 14 points 6 months ago

Goddamnit, stop making me click the downvote button twice!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Just stopping by to say that I understood the obvious sarcasm/joke

[–] TheKracken 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I hope you're a troll. That's just next level stupidity to be real.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

The second sentence tells me troll/sarcasm. But there are people who unironically believe that

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[–] Potatisen 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sir, I'm trying to survive a pandemic not learn how to be a lobster.

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[–] Allonzee 69 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

Whenever I dare to hope about the lofty, admirable star trek future, I remember that space is completely unforgiving and we just aren't up to the task for anything more than a token selfie by the best dozen humans we can possibly produce with great effort and training.

As a species, we aren't going to spread out there. Still too primitive, and probably too self-destructive to make it out of this phase of evolution. This might be one of those great filters scientists postulate as to why there aren't signals from innumerable civilizations out there.

We aren't even capable of caring for one another, let alone the EASIEST to maintain, most naturally human friendly habitat we would ever encounter in the cosmos as we evolved to fit it. No airlocks, the air/water/waste recycling was already fully automated, all we had to do was not recklessly grow/metastasize to the point we strain the absolutely massive system out of greed and glut, and stop carelessly shitting where we sleep. We all know how that's been going since we figured out how to make dead animal poison rocket us accross town.

Master space? Master planetary defense? We can't even defend this world from our own habitual consumerism. We'll be lucky if we aren't scattered tribes living near the old hardened structures of the before times for emergency shelter from the new normal weather events in a hundred years. We're already starting to argue over the resources it's taking to rebuild population centers from the current new normal. We have played pretend we were since human civilization began, but we are NOT and never have been this world's owners or masters, and we are still very much its subject.

And Reminder, what we're doing and have been doing in decades won't be undone for millions of years. The Earth is a self-correcting system, and the damage we're doing is inconsequential to its 3.8 billion year old, beautiful story of life growing out of every crevice, just not on a timescale humans can benefit from or even truly appreciate.

Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell - Great Filter

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

We aren’t even capable of caring for one another

It's the part that drives me the most wild. We're all stuck on this shitty rock hurtling through space together, literally the bare minimum we could do to make it bearable is to be kind to one another and supportive of one another. We can't even be fucked with bare minimum.

[–] Allonzee 7 points 6 months ago

Same, if we can't even, in actions not rhetoric, start from a baseline of "we're all in the same boat, we all have needs and seek happiness, how do we maximize everyone's well-being to facilitate that?" then we're still just savage animals wrestling in the dirt, but with the dangerous capacity to devise technologies for selfish ends we aren't wise/evolved enough to truly appreciate the consequences of using.

[–] cm0002 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Tbf, in order for humanity to get where they're at in the Star Trek timeline they had to go through WWIII: Nuclear edition

[–] Allonzee 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Covid kind of disillusioned me to the whole "all humanity needs is a common enemy/suffering to get right" concept.

[–] cm0002 12 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Iirc, it wasn't just that as far as Star Trek goes. Iirc, most world governments and economic systems were destroyed, humanity was a mere fraction of its peak population. Humanity literally physically came together because it was necessary to rebuild.

Its one thing to have a common enemy/suffering without changing anything else as far as governments and social systems goes. It's completely different when you not only have the enemy/suffering but to also need to literally rebuild everything from scratch

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The most horrifying possible outcome of a World War is, arguably, there being a definitive "winner".

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[–] grue 7 points 6 months ago

I remember that space is completely unforgiving and we just aren’t up to the task for anything more than a token selfie

"Wow, rude!" -- Carl Sagan, probably

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Congress is making laws about bathrooms and genitals like a bunch of 6th graders running a minecraft server. Of course we can't handle fucking asteroid defense.

[–] teejay 26 points 6 months ago

It reminds me of how tech companies are all scrambling to use AI. There was a funny article recently where the author pointed out that these companies are struggling to do very basic things, so the idea that they could somehow tackle AI in a way that's useful and profitable is silly.

Here's the article, very entertaining and worth the read.

[–] Allonzee 23 points 6 months ago

Maybe the 10 commandments posted in every Louisiana classroom will stop the asteroids.

[–] Leg 60 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Real talk, an asteroid wiping us out would only expedite the inevitable. If we could pull together and deflect an asteroid, there's hope. If not, we failed the test and die with the consequences. But we don't need the asteroid to fail this test. We're making great strides towards destroying our home with home field advantage.

[–] LaunchesKayaks 24 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Gotta give it to humanity, though. We're damn good at ruining everything we touch.

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[–] mriormro 49 points 6 months ago (11 children)

We've already solved this. We just need to train a team of dysfunctional oil drillers to send up to the asteroid.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

We are not at a point where the "global community" is more than a few competing, egoistic and greedy tribes with clashing world views, so that's no surprise.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] Jackhammer_Joe 27 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It was a great movie - sadly, because it was so accurate. Provided that you can call a sci-fi movie accurate. But after the pandemic and shit, "don't look up" looks like a playbook for a meteor extinction level event

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago

What's funny is that movie released during the pandemic, so it seemed like that was the thing it was commenting on, but actually it was filmed before the pandemic and was originally meant as a commentary on climate change. What it shows is that humanity's modern tribalism is remarkably predictable. No matter what the problem, we will turn it into an us versus them situation where getting anything meaningful done becomes an uphill battle.

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[–] rsuri 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Sustaining the space mission, disaster preparedness, and communications efforts across a 14-year timeline would be challenging due to budget cycles, changes in political leadership, personnel, and ever-changing world events," the report says.

First administration: "We must do something about the asteroid. I've started a plan to divert it, but it'll take several years."

Second administration: "The asteroid is a corrupt globalist conspiracy. We never needed to divert asteroids in the past, why do we supposedly need to spend all your hard-earned tax dollars on this all of a sudden? I will prove my anti-elitist attitudes by cancelling the asteroid program as soon as I take office."

Third administration: "Yes we recognize that the asteroid is a threat, but as we saw last time there's just too much political resistance to solving it. Let's focus on other priorities that we can solve."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Yea that and panic at the end !

[–] Boozilla 39 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Achievement unlocked: discovering the Great Filter.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

If an asteroid were to hit the Earth large enough to cause human extinction, it would save us the embarrassment of killing ourselves from poisoning the climate or microplastic pollution.

I'm pretty sure we navigated nuclear holocaust, but we haven't fully ruled it out either.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

Don't Look Up!

[–] Etterra 18 points 6 months ago

That's okay, humanity had s good run. I imagine we'll have extinctified ourselves way before a space rock could do it. A+ for trying though.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm roundaboutly reminded of one of my favorite novels - Greener Than You Think, by Ward Moore.

It's a science fiction story about the end of the world that was written in the late 40s. The proximate cause of the end is all of the landmasses of Earth being smothered by a gigantic and very aggressive strain of Bermuda grass, but the real cause is the utter and complete failure, due to ignorance, greed, selfishness, short-sightedness, incompetence, arrogance and so on, of every attempt to combat it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In an exercise involving multiple US government agencies during April 2024, NASA conducted a so-called "tabletop" game in which participants plot their response to a 72 percent chance that an asteroid may hit Earth in 14 years.

Underpinning a bewildering number of moving parts is the likelihood that space agencies are not ready to implement the operations needed to find out more about the threat and mitigate it, even with more than a decade to prepare.

The game also found that the "role of the UN-endorsed Space Mission Planning and Advisory Group (SMPAG) in an asteroid impact threat scenario is not fully understood by all participants."

"Sustaining the space mission, disaster preparedness, and communications efforts across a 14-year timeline would be challenging due to budget cycles, changes in political leadership, personnel, and ever-changing world events," the report says.

It recommends "periodic briefings and exercises to continue to raise awareness of planetary defense and increase readiness for preparation and response to an asteroid impact threat."

Speaking to US public radio service NPR, Terik Daly, planetary defense section supervisor at the Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory, said experts didn't know of any asteroids of a substantial size that are going to hit Earth for the next hundred years.


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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Call me an optimist, but I think that if an android was actually going to destroy life as we know it, nations would do everything in their power to advert the disaster.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (8 children)

you really think ONE android could wipe out life as we know it?

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah, I mean it'd at least need to be two androids, right? I've seen terminator.

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[–] hperrin 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Half the population would believe the asteroid is a hoax spread by the [insert ethnic or religious group here].

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