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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that's the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

If you read comments on Instagram and the like, people hate electric cars because...

...they don't do the vroom-vroom noise.

[–] AA5B 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

And I don’t get this. I mean I also love the feel of power you get from a large engine turning over, but really? You over there in that mustang making all that noise and effort, really straining to accelerate, while my Tesla effortlessly leaves you in the dust? Do people not understand how much more powerful it feel to be the fastest car with seemingly no effort?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's a very real issue that car enthusiasts have a hard time with. There's just something about a great sounding engine that is the cherry on top of a car you like. My weak spot is a 4 rotor screaming like a banshee from Mazda's Le Mans car.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Car enthusiasts are weird.

The whole notion of loud = fast falls apart with electric engines.

Not many people buy cars just because they sound good. It's usually the engine that makes it sound good.(+exhaust, etc). Which means tha there's still the need for speed.

But if you want speed, you need to go electric.

The whole macho V8 rumble and manually shifting gears is now less effective than a one-pedal, one-gear, quiet electeic setup.

This must such a huge disconnect in their heads, that they go about posting "electric = gay" on car videos.

Just like listening to loud music with windows down, the loud fart cans are just for seeking attention.

A loud engine is now an equivalent of a dog that barks, but doesn't bite.

I agree that there are many cars that sound incredible (four rotor Mazdas, Porche Carerra GTs, Black or Brabus Mercs, you name it), but disliking electric cars because they make a silly quiet noise just makes one a poser, IMO.

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[–] hesusingthespiritbomb 11 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I feel like this is directed towards ICE vs EV cars. If that's the case, it's sort of frustrating.

EVs have some very real drawbacks. Even if those drawbacks are solvable problems, they are still problems right now. Pushing this narrative that EVs are universally better or that the biggest hurdle to adoption is irrational consumer sentiment will just make people feel gaslit. It'll also make people more hesitant to adopt later on, because they'll be skeptical of positive reviews that are honest.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Those drawbacks are endlessly discussed online, to a ridiculous degree. Nothing is universally better, but EVs are almost as close as it gets. If there weren't several whole industries dead set on preventing adoption they would have been adopted much quicker.

[–] Skullgrid 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

ok, what are those drawbacks?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Battery cost pushing up vehicle cost, battery replacement cost, battery weight, low battery energy density, batteries that only last half of a car lifespan of 20 years.

We need much better batteries.

For now, plug in Hybrids are a good way to avoid many of these problems.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

I agree. ICE vehicles usually have more range, fuel is basically available everywhere, they take minutes to fill, and generally have a cheaper initial cost.

In addition to that, ICE cars, though needing more maintenance, have repair shops in just about every village, town, city.... often several of them.

I feel like EVs are a bit of a glass cannon when it comes to anything that might go wrong with them. Whatever goes wrong is very likely to cause the vehicle to stop operation entirely. Most ICE cars will either just keep working when something is wrong, or at worst go into a limp mode, allowing you to get to a repair shop to have the vehicle repaired.

I understand why EVs are the way they are, high voltage electricity is no joke, but then you need a tow truck to get to the service center that's likely much further away.

EVs are great, don't get me wrong, but if you're planning for the worst case and/or failure cases, ICE vehicles just fail more gradually, frequently giving you some leeway to take care of the problem well before the vehicle completely stops working.

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