Is there at least any way we can leverage this so that bigots become literally scared of mistreating queer people? Like, if you deliberately misgender someone or use a homophobic slur everyone goes quiet and scatters in different directions because they are anticipating the drone strike.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"My pronouns might be they/them, but yours are about to be were/was."

This message brought to you by Lockheed Martin: proudly supporting LGBTQ+ drone pilots worldwide.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

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[–] andallthat 34 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I can't say if this specific one is authentic but I would not be surprised, as my company does the same: branded pride flags, t-shirts for their LGBTQ+ employees. And I'm torn on this, because I feel a bit bad about the branding aspect of it, but on the other hand the company putting their name to openly support all sexual and gender identities does seem like a good thing to do....

Yes, the irony of a company that produces more efficient ways of killing people being concerned with social issues does not escape me. But there are employees of the company who apparently support both (and good for them)

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Any employee of Lockheed Martin who's an ally attended on their own, not behind company branding. This is just a big business rainbowwashing itself. Using queer people as a tool to improve its own social capital.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Well that doesn't really adress the point

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (24 children)

My first pride experience involved wearing a Kuffiyeh and shouting at my local military contractor’s HR department and the one visibly LGBTQ person as they strolled down the street appalled that people didn’t want them there.

No pride in genocide,

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[–] mydude 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Is this picture real? I mean, for real, real...? Link to video?

[–] qaz 12 points 5 months ago

Video source

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Probably. Following resource is from 2021: https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/news/features/2021/16-years-of-pride-business-resource-group.html

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

they might ... you know ... be gay and work at lockheed martin ... and got their managers to pay for some shit for pride. maybe could submit expense reports and have the trip paid for ...

there were times when gay people couldn't work at lockheed martin. i prefer this photo to that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The fact that anyone, let alone LGBTQ+ people, can go to the streets holding a "Lockheed Martin" sign and not get shamed into dropping it, shows we're failing as a society

[–] Malek061 13 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Lockheed martin makes HIMARS. HIMARS is saving ukraine lives. That's a good thing.

[–] mlg 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They also make a motherload of AGMs including hellfires & mavericks which the IDF used exclusively to nuke Gaza and its residents into oblivion.

[–] Malek061 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Weapons can be used for liberation or oppression at the same time. Lockheed doesn't get to say who they sell to.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (28 children)

Weapons can be used for liberation or oppression at the same time. Lockheed doesn’t get to say who they sell to.

Yes, you've identified the problem.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

OK, so your earlier comment was saying they're good for sending (selling) weapons to Ukraine. Then you say they can't be held responsible for the bad things. If they can't be responsible for the bad, then they also don't get credit for any good.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

How about we don't use the word nuke, in the context of military actions, unless actual nuclear weapons were involved? Because Israel is the one country on Earth that has them but hasn't declared as such. And they have repeatedly threatened to use them on Gaza as some sort of act of god.

[–] PugJesus 6 points 5 months ago

HIMARS is saving ukraine lives. That’s a good thing.

Many people on this platform disagree with that, unfortunately.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

If all of a sudden the white power movement had mass public support, these corpos would have their logos plastered over red, black, and white banners by next week. Fuck em.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (29 children)

Liberalism in a nutshell:

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

When the new gay CEO unfairly fires 2000 workers, gay and straight alike 🤑👌

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[–] TheControlled 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

Lockheed-Martin doesn't commit war crimes, the governments you elected or didn't, do the war crimes. They're a weapon and aeronautical reasearch, development, and manufacturing company. Building weapons and planes and jets is something every single nation on Earth does (or buy from those that do). This is just as silly as Coca-Cola sponsoring Pride, maybe even more so if you knew what they've been up to.

Corporations are not your friend or ally, rainbow or not. It doesn't matter what they support because they are all in some way evil. But if people want their support in Pride, why not?

[–] ZMoney 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Corporations want to be perceived as people, and they are protected by law as such. A person who knowingly manufactures weapons that are being used to commit a genocide is a psychopath. Psychopaths typically feign empathy to appear normal and blend in with society. Lockheed Martin supporting Pride is an example of such behavior.

Of course corporations are profit maximization engines, not people. By allowing them to act like people, we are normalizing psychopathy.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume that there's no cause-effect relation between what Lockheed-Martin execs deem profitable, and whatever policy the US takes. Lobbying is a thing, and the same investors that put money in military conglomerates, put money into lobbying and into media. If you can't see how the existence of powerful capitalist companies that make weapons is detrimental to a democracy, I don't know what to tell you.

What's this bullshit? Now we can't criticise the military conglomerates because "they're just companies doing company things"? Nah fuck that and fuck Lockheed Martin, selling weapons to an imperialist government makes you as bad as the imperialist government.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The same plant makes missiles for Ukraine and bombs for Israel. Corporate doesn't care, the governments need to instead.

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[–] niktemadur 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)