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This is literally just the r/nyt subreddit about The New York Times.

Given he apparently takes inspiration from Elon Musk, it's only a matter of time until u/spez starts adding post view limits unless you pay extra.

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[–] Candelestine 421 points 1 year ago (19 children)

This is why the weekend DDoS attacks and frontpage vandalism don't really concern me. With spez and Musk burning their services to the ground, we're (along with other competitors, we're not the only one) going to get a steady influx pressure for the coming months or even years. Shutting us partly down for a few hours every weekend does nothing in the face of this much stronger phenomenon. Whoever is doing it is basically pissing into the wind.

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[–] [email protected] 182 points 1 year ago (7 children)

If you install the duckduckgo browser and turn on app tracking protection, you'll see just how much data is harvested from mobile apps, which is genuinely scary.

This is why these sites are pushing the mobile app. It's much harder to prevent trackers through an app than it is through a web browser.

[–] Tot 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just installed this and am trying the app tracking protection (it's in beta, for those reading who haven't used it). Shockingly, Candy Crush Soda doesn't come up with a list of junk being tracked. whew or something

Here's a screenshot from Discord:

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Some of that seems unnecessary (device boot time). But it's not all scary spooky tracking. Some permissions/information is required for certain features.

For example, you can't rotate your app UI if you're not allowed to know screen orientation. Or maybe they do a low power mode if device battery is low, or a warning that the app might not function well if the OS or device is old.

Not saying you're wrong or that Discord is right. Just pointing out that a long list of permissions isn't on its own a bad thing, if those permissions are required for specific features, and not just for the sake of data harvesting.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Do you happen to have a screenshot of the data that is harvested? I am genuinely curious.

[–] RojaBunny 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't have specific info on what's harvested, but I have had mine active for a while and I'm at 300k tracking attempts blocked in the last 7 days. It's absolutely wild.

Edited to add - they don't specify what is being attempted, just what each company is known to track generally.

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The enshittification proceeds apace. Fuck u/spez.

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Someone should answer the phone because we all fucking called it.

What's next in the Reddit bingo?

The removal of old reddit?

Limiting the number of posts we can see per day as a normal user?

Buy upvotes?

The slippery slope logical fallacy doesn't count when there is actual factual evidence.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The removal of old reddit?

Yep, they will absolutely do that. Only a matter of time.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I'm surprised Old Reddit has lasted this long at all, even before all this.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's just trying to protect people from inappropriate content. We all know how harmful inappropriate content can be for children unless it's paired with targeted advertisements, which mitigate the danger.

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[–] dhork 87 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No wonder King Steven was so incensed when the Landed Gentry cut off access to the site from commoners; it's a privilege he reserves as a Royal Prerogative....

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[–] hrxbfrnuructdny 84 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I'm now only on lemmy and YouTube. Never got into tictok or Facebook, left and deleted reddit and Twitter. I'm in a happy place.

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[–] nostalgicgamerz 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I called this happening right when Spez said he wanted to emulate elon. The other shoe has dropped

I assume eventually all subreddits will be locked to non registered users on mobile…and PC

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago

Enshittification continues…

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Remember, corporations are never your friend. I remember when redditors thought spez was "one of them".

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're doing great work on their destroy any positive community sentiment Speedrun, it's been shocking decision after terrible change

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[–] lemmedoit 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Let's dump Reddit for ever for good.

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[–] desmosthenes 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] Saneless 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All to make the company look like it has revenue so they can scam people on their IPO

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[–] nucleative 47 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Looks like more efforts to sanitize the place in prep for an ipo.

The execs are almost certainly ready to cash out and retire from that annoying gig 🤣

But just wait until a wallst level CEO gets hold of the reigns.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Having tried /r/politics, /r/eve, and /r/valheim, I was going to point out how I didn't get the screen you got. However, /r/nyt gets this message. As an aside, /r/politics, /r/eve, and /r/valheim are verified while /r/nyt is not is interesting to me. Upon further testing, /r/nytimes works. Seeing how /r/nyt has 411 subscribers, while /r/nytimes has 8,431 subscribers, I think smaller, less well known subreddits will run into issues while larger subreddits or subreddits that are more well known will have no accessibility issues.

It's also interesting that this block doesn't exist if you navigate to old.reddit.com/r/nyt instead of just reddit.com/r/nyt. You think they would have just repurposed the page that asked if you if you were over 18 before going to a nsfw subreddit for this task, but old.reddit.com seems completely overlooked as of now.

old.reddit.com on the Firefox Android app looks bad, but I wonder if someone could make an extension to automatically redirect users to old.reddit.com when navigating to reddit.com, as well as an extension that changes the layout of the page to something more mobile friendly, similar to RES but for your phone's browser. That might make reddit usable on mobile without the official app until old.reddit.com goes away or they try to implement some sort of user agent string check.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Anyone noticed how Lemmy links are blocked and shadowbanned in Reddit?

[–] Funwayguy 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep. There is a metric fuckton of tampering across the board, some of which is sub specific.

It's the same kind of things they pulled with WatchRedditDie a long time ago but now it's site wide with little to no subtlety. The rules are imaginary and meaningless, more so than they already were.

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[–] qwed113 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wish there was a way to accelerate widespread adoption of Lemmy.

Reddit has been awesome, but the community deserves a decentralized platform free from bullshit like this.

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[–] daniskarma 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reddit desindexed by Google in 3....2....1....

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[–] Fer24 40 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Another reason for get out of Reddit

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[–] itscozydownhere 36 points 1 year ago

This is gonna work SO WELL, as per Twitter teachings

[–] JustZ 34 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Really trying to force people to install and browse with the app. I'll never do it.

Never installed the Facebook app either. Just too much data harvesting, too invasive.

Deleted Facebook, deleted reddit, deleted Twitter. Never looked back.

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[–] SpeedLimit55 34 points 1 year ago (7 children)

For now old.reddit still works.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

My operating assumption here is that Reddit can collect more data to sell if people are logged in and use their app.

Does not matter if you destroy 75% of the usefulness of the system if the remaining 25% can be more effectively monetized.

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[–] Spacecraft 32 points 1 year ago

Yeah this move has killed all interaction with Reddit for me. I only open a reddit page now if it's in my google results for something I'm searching, but the last few times I've hit this message. There's thousands of subs that are never going to get reviewed because they're small and I'm sure at the absolute end of their queue.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Old.reddit is next, the new Reddit design is shit on purpose to make you use their app.

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[–] grape54321 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

reddit and twitter are literally competing to see who can destroy their platform first and unfortunately they're both winning

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The second Digg 4.0 speedrun any%

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