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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Wyoming resident here. We actually do have a "zombie moose" problem and its persistence is in part due to a lack of wolves. No, I am not kidding.

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/zombie-deer-disease-spreading-and-scientists-are-concerned-it-could-jump-humans

[–] MataVatnik 6 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck I didn't know moose and elk were susceptible to cwd

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I like the thought that just like goose and geese the plural of moose should respectively be meese.

[–] Viking_Hippie 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Agreed.

Following the same logic: if the plural of ox is oxen, the plural of fox is foxen.

[–] Got_Bent 6 points 3 weeks ago

Now I feel like the marketing department for the fashion industry back in the sixties missed an opportunity. It could've been a foxen coat or a foxen wrap.

[–] aeronmelon 4 points 3 weeks ago

The plural of grass should be grease.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Analogy is one of the strongest factors in language change

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I die on this hill, people look at me weird when I say meese but it seems dum dum to have them different.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Actuallyyy...

Goose comes from Old English, where they pluralized [go:s] (think "goes" with a soft S) by adding [iz] (like "ease").

When saying [go:siz], it was kinda hard for the mouth to switch the vowels from the [o] to the [i] quickly, so to save themselves the trouble, they'd change the first vowel to make it a little more similar to the second, so [go:siz] became [ge:siz].

Then, that was too long, so they dropped the [z]. [ge:si] (think "guessy" but the "e" lasts a bit longer than usual).

Then, that was too long, so they dropped the [i]. [ge:s] ("guess" with that same drawn out "e").

📯It's the Great Vowel Shift!📯 Now, [go:s] and [ge:s] become [gu:s] and [gi:s]. Almost there!

The vowels become a tad short over time, and now, you have [gus] and [gis] which are written "goose" and "geese".

But "MOOSE"? That's Algonquin. It has nothing to do with all that noise. "But they sound the same and are written the same?!" So? Haven't you heard? English orthography is a dumpster fire. Nobody knows what they're doing. Not even the words.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What's this Great Shift of Vowels?

[–] orangeboats 1 points 3 weeks ago

The reason why English sounds so different from its relatives like Dutch and German.

[–] Buddahriffic 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Two words on completely different paths, probably headed in completely different directions, but then they smashed together and because they sound similar, one could end up inheriting the evolution of the other.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yup. That phenomenon is called "analogical change". The opposite happens too though! For example, "person" and "parson".

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

One wolf killing a moose is a very difficult feat. But when that wolf succeeds he gets more than half of the meat still.

Six wolves will have a much easier time killing a single moose. They will have almost all meat for themselves, but now have to divide it among them. If that would be done fairly every wolf would only get a third of what they would get if they killed a moose alone.

I don't think what's said in the screenshot is as straightforward as they think it is. I'd be more convinced hunting in packs has a lot more to do with being able to tackle stronger prey. A moose isn't defenseless.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Also can a single wolf even eat a whole moose?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

They can eat out the innards and use the carcass as a shelter like a tauntaun..

Then when the meat is all gone, they make an epic robot out of their bones.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

When the outside is a freezer, yeah. Given the usual range of moose that's true for like half the year.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

It only needs to eat 53% according to the discussion above.

[–] tahoe 4 points 3 weeks ago

One lab or one beagle sure could!

[–] Stamau123 1 points 3 weeks ago

If the bird fact is true then no, since a single wolf wouldn't be enough to scare away all the birds they would lose some more moose flesh from scavengers

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

Cat: I have 9 lives!
That moose: Pathetic

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

If it had to kill the moose 11 times it didn't do a very good job the first 10 times. That's why they hunt in packs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A Møøse once bit my sister...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush

[–] TheControlled 5 points 3 weeks ago

What's up with these percentages? How could these possibly be known? You would have to know how much the animal weighed before hand and have control over a lot of variables.

And they cited Reddit...

[more citations needed]

[–] thesporkeffect 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am struggling to imagine a lone wolf killing an adult moose. A juvenile or elderly/sick one maybe. Unless it managed to hamstring it real early on it just seems implausible

[–] cm0002 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A wolf is a lot bigger than you think, also, they have greater agility over a moose id reckon

[–] thesporkeffect 3 points 3 weeks ago

Sure, but moosen are like 15 foot tall multi ton kaiju with bone spikes and an attitude problem. Ive been to wolf sanctuaries and I understand wolf size, but it's not in the same league

[–] grue 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A møøse once bit my sister.

[–] snekerpimp 3 points 3 weeks ago

She was carving her initials øn it

[–] aeronmelon 3 points 3 weeks ago

TIL there is a Highlander moose and one brave wolf keeping it at bay.

[–] taiyang 3 points 3 weeks ago

Attack of the Zombie Moose, truly a Canadian horror story.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Zombie moose scary…

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

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