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[–] De_Narm 44 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I still don't think the tech is there. My current phone is 6 years old and there still is no reason to get a new one - I couldn't imagine a foldable lasting that long. The ones I've seen in person didn't age particulary well.

[–] thesocavault 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And you still have an SD card slot and headphone jack - you are ahead of the curve

[–] dorumon 5 points 5 months ago

Also an IR blaster as someone who also has an LG V20. It's a shame that these phones can't rock custom roms beyond android 8 or 9 (only if you live in Korea) due to Qualcomm refusing to give the community volte drivers and technically these phones never having an official way to unlock the bootloader. But using android 8.0 in 2024 isn't that bad yet and I can totally justify still using a 2016 smartphone in 2024 especially when it benchmarks the same as low end smartphones today plus it has a removable battery.

[–] kernelle 10 points 5 months ago

Exactly, folding phones have so many issues people very rarely buy a folding one again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I'm still rocking an LG V20. Haven't seen anything since I got it that interests me enough to switch. The fact that I'd lose so much functionality is a big reason for that. Thankfully it's really tough and the battery is trivial to replace. I imagine the days are numbered before apps stop supporting it but until that becomes a problem I don't see myself replacing it. It's sad really. I was so optimistic for the future possibilities of what smart phones could do when I got this one and it turned out to be just about the last one before they all started stripping every feature they could think of.

[–] HurlingDurling 36 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Let's see why that might be...

  • not waterproof (or resistant in any way to water)
  • ugly crease in miffle of screen.
  • uber sensitive "glass"
  • fragile mechanical hinge
  • stupidly expensive price tag
  • inferior cameras when compared to slabs
[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My last Google Pixel barely touched water and that was the end of that. Meanwhile, I remember a friend literally dropping his flip phone into a glass of beer (intentionally to show off its waterproofness) nearly two decades ago and it being perfectly fine after he took it out.

I don't have a point, I'm just still bitter about the Pixel. I wish more companies would make smaller phones.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Weird that your Pixel didn't handle water

I've dropped my 8 pro into the tub like 8 times in the 8 months ive owned it and it just disabled the port and is fine

Same with my pixel 6, 4, and 2 XL

Come to think of it I haven't lost a phone to liquid since my LG G7, which I dropped into a bucket of diesel

[–] OrderedChaos 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

All I can imagine from your description is you looking for opportunities to dunk your phones.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I used to keep my phone in my breast pocket because I wasn't allowed to wear headphones at work but WAS allowed to put it there and play audio aloud

Thus my phone would flip out far more often than a normal person

[–] OrderedChaos 1 points 5 months ago

That sucks.

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[–] NorskDronePilot 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, first you should really check the facts before you throw out some nonsense.

  1. The Z Folds are IPX8 water resistant. But it's not resistant to dust.

  2. Having a big dynamic island taking away content on screen is actually 10000 times worse than an invincible crease when you look at the screen in front of the screen.

  3. Actually, the outer screen on any smartphones are likely to get cracked a long time before the inner screen on the Z Folds gets damaged.

  4. The hinge on the Z Fold5 is rock solid. The Z Fold4 had a bad hinge. I know because I was unlucky to get a bad hinge on my Z Fold4.

  5. If you look at the price on an iPhone 15 Pro Max, specifically here in Norway, you will see that the Z Fold5 with 512 GB internal storage is about 100 dollar cheaper than the iPhone 15 Pro Max with 512 GB internal storage.

  6. That's true. But that doesn't means the cameras on the Z Fold5 are bad in any ways though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I mean, saying a model is cheaper than the latest iPhone is like saying Teslas are cheaper than Mercedes-Benz.

[–] Zerfallen 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Maybe they could switch things up and offer a single modern mini phone model, under 5".

[–] Fredselfish 14 points 5 months ago

And they should. Thier foldable phone is garbage. My wife has one. There a permanent crease in the middle and it glitches out. We are going have to get her a new phone soon.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Size is the main reason I moved to a foldable 2 years ago. I'd love something reasonably sized instead of everything being giant phablets.

[–] thesocavault 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I use Sony Xperia phones, they aren't as big and still have the same features I love - SD Card and Headphone Jack

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Good luck finding new ones in the US.

[–] thesocavault 2 points 5 months ago

I either get them from Amazon or Sony directly. I'm glad they moved from the glass back to a textured back.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I've eyed some Xperias. How are the security updates?

[–] dustyData 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

None, Sony makes no promises of long term support. The most they usually support a device is two years if even. Typically they only commit to one version of Android upgrade and then you are on your own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Apparently they're up to three years now. Woo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That's not bad. I usually keep a Pixel around to AOSP Style ROMs just in case nothing compelling comes out between big vendor releases. I'm already dreading the day my Galaxy Flip4 goes OOS. Have a Pixel 7 running Graphene as a backup/ travel burner currently.

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[–] thesocavault 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They will give you updates for about 2 years. Every device I had was upgraded from 13 to 14. I personally don't have a problem with it. Sometimes new features you don't like so you stick with the old.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I couldn't care less about the major versions, but announcing they'll stop with the security fixes three years after the release date for a device that I can't update reliably any other way was a deal breaker for me.

That and the fact that they, too, are just too damn huge. Yes, even the 5 and 10. No, their aspect ratio doesn't fix that. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

[–] thesocavault 1 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Everyone has their things to look for, I have the 1, it's slightly larger than the 5, but for me it was headphone jack and SD card slot.

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[–] Fake4000 22 points 5 months ago

People aren't buying as many phones as they used to, and the Chinese are making cheaper foldables now.

[–] n3m37h 18 points 5 months ago

Sorry but folding glass phones are stupid.

Glass is glass and glassbbreaks - Jerry Rig Everything

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

That's because since introducing the market, they haven't really innovated at all. Others came up with better hinge designs, orientations, and built better interfacing software.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I would be an ideal customer for the Samsung fold but I never pulled the trigger because

  • the dimensions make the closed device too tall. Make it the same as the Ultra non foldable.

  • screen fold mechanism/hinge not as good as their competition

  • must have the S pen (I know views on this are divided)

I remain a happy Note Ultra customer instead. Hey, they still get my money so it's not all bad for Samsung.

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[–] Badeendje 10 points 5 months ago

Phones are expensive and fragile. No need to add movable parts and more fragility to the mix. Especially not at those price points.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Samsung phones are full of adware and shit. No accident they are "chosen" as top phones by reviewing websites.

Consumers don't get the best phones in those reviews. They are paid for.

[–] aesthelete 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Everyone here is taking a dump on foldables, but I bought a Motorola razr 2023 for myself as a kind of Christmas present and after having a phone that comfortably fits in my pocket for the first time in like 10 years there is no way I'm going back to phablets. Thanks, I love it.

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Fuck the foldable market. I bought the zFold 3 and the fucking screen cracked simply because I unfolded it to write a note. Had it for 2 weeks; I take care of my things (I bought the s22 ultra to replace the fold, and I'm still using it to this day and it still runs/looks like new), so it wasn't a fucking "me issue". Screw foldable phones like the zFold.

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[–] Sanctus 5 points 5 months ago

Fuck Samsung, I'm glad these companies are spanking them. That said, my boss bought me a Fold5 cause you don't say no to a free brand new phone. Its not worth the price tag buy a different foldable if you are enthusiast.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Moto flip is a thing. If I were to get one it'd probably be the moto razr

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[–] thesocavault 3 points 5 months ago

Foldable phones look like the best of both worlds, but that screen looks like one fold the wrong way and it's problems.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have the galaxy fold 4 and it is still going strong. Love that phone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Same, have an upvote

[–] Jumi 1 points 5 months ago

Laughs in Galaxy S10

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