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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I spent most of today looking at places to rent in Denver and I come home to Google having killed it's fucking search engine. What the hell is going on

[–] jennwiththesea 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's what you get for trying to have a real life.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

How does je dare to.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Google decided that the entirety of reddit is perfect for training data in their AI LLM. People's shitposts from 10 years ago have now been given the spotlight at the top of google searches.

[–] RGB3x3 76 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Google has been bad for a long time, but they've shut the bed so hard lately. Seriously, look at this:

I actually run out of screenshot space before I can get to an actual regular search result!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Search done from Germany.

The mobile search doesnt look much different. The order on mobile is as follows:

  • A snippet from glogs.wordlbank.org
  • People also ask
  • Forbes article (see screenshot above)
  • www.epa.gov article

Both are Firefox Desktop (Win) and Mobile (Android) running Consent-O-Matic and ublock Origin

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Bing has a similar problem where it just repeats the results, some pages are only 1 result so you just keep clicking next

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago (8 children)

So weird, that's not what I see.

[–] voracitude 187 points 1 month ago (10 children)

On the one hand, generative AI doesn't have to give deterministic answers i.e. it won't necessarily generate the same answer even when asked the same question in the same way.

But on the other hand, editing the HTML of any page to say whatever you want and then taking a screenshot of it is very easy.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (7 children)

It could also be A/B testing, so not everyone will have the AI running in general

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[–] QuadratureSurfer 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Technically, generative AI will always give the same answer when given the same input. But, what happens is a "seed" is mixed in to help randomize things, that way it can give different answers every time even if you ask it the same question.

[–] jyte 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What happened to my computers being reliable, predictable, idempotent ? :'(

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

That seems like a Wikipedia capture for the wrong page instead of AI.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

There are actually a bunch of these. Adding glue to pizza sauce (scraped from an old reddit post), replacing Blinker Fluid every two years, etc.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/05/googles-ai-overview-can-give-false-misleading-and-dangerous-answers/

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

A/B testing moment

[–] Nobody 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] AdamEatsAss 18 points 1 month ago

Oh perfect. We'll just point production to your machine.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

AI and its consequences have been a disaster for Google.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

... a disaster for ~~Google~~ humanity.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

Well, we know Google won't get rid of this.

They'll only cancel it after it actually works and becomes useful

[–] fne8w2ah 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did somebody say enshittification?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (6 children)

We really need a whole community just for the very funny AI errors like this. I could spend all day reading about leaving a dog in a hot car, jumping off a bridge and eating at least one rock a day.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I asked Google for the release date of the new Final Fantasy XIV expansion today, which comes out June 28th. It told me March 26th

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure March 26 is the day the pre-order started, so that one at least kind of makes sense.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What the hell is going on with Google search? Has it completely shit itself after the AI implementation? I know its been bad for a while but this is another level.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Short answer, yes. The ratio of LLM generated noise to actual content is increasing exponentially as we speak. To us it seems overnight because the increase is so steep but it's been happening for several years. And it's going to get a lot worse.

Honestly, I think we'll have to go back to 90s methods like web rings and human curated link directories.

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[–] ekZepp 29 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Will, it's not wrong. Welcome to the AI powered world of tomorrow.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

I stopped using Google years ago. I started using Bing but had to stop that as it would divert me to MSN to sign in when clicking a link for a news article. Like a news article for The Independent or The Times or any other.

I then started using DuckDuckGo which is powered by Bing, but found it wasn’t great at many searches.

I now use Arc Search most of the time and click browse for me to get the information I want without the bullshit. Search is essentially dead due to greed.

[–] Buffalox 11 points 1 month ago (16 children)
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[–] psycho_driver 11 points 1 month ago

I'm finding SearXNG to be very good. It operates like dogpile used to but is actually functional and it pretty much entirely squelches product placement results. I actually have to manually go to google if I want to get product listings for something.

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[–] mojo_raisin 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's time to return to human curated directories.

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[–] vimdiesel 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

how do you guys get these things? I never see any summaries like that. I wonder if one of my adblockers is killing google AI lmao. Do you have to be logged into your google account? I never log into google any more.

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[–] NutWrench 13 points 1 month ago

Behold the wonders of AI! Now, we don't have to pay human beings to edit webpages for us! Thanks to AI, you can just sit back and watch the money roll in!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

lmao not prepared for this comedy from google

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Can't recreate this. Or any of the other AI flops people keep posting

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thats because LLMs have a certain level of randomisation built in. You wont always get the same result for any given inquiry

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[–] laxe 12 points 1 month ago

They lost it a long time ago

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I like to use the Void from r/place as a metaphor for the Internet's gremlins. Google has called to the void, didn't bother to filter it and isn't happy with what it found. To me that signals that Google no longer understands internet culture.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nobody mentioned udm14.com ?

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