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French authorities ban protest against police violence in Paris (www.france24.com)

submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave to c/news

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French authorities confirmed that a protest against police violence set to take place in Paris on Saturday could not go ahead due to police shortages. NGOs say the ban signals a “more and more repressive” approach from authorities.

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[–] Kinglink 126 points 1 year ago

If there's one thing that has proven to stop protests, it's laws.

[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe the cops should try not being violent.

[–] rockSlayer 46 points 1 year ago

Woah now, let's not get too crazy with our solutions /s

[–] postmateDumbass 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the only tool they have is a hammer.

[–] orphiebaby 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

*gun

Oh wait, that's the U.S.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I mean over here too. The protests are about extrajudicial killings of minorities.

[–] rockSlayer 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, if cops in the US, France, and Germany are bastards, does that mean All Cops Are Bastards?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Let's not jump conclusions. I'm sure not all cops are bastard, for example dead ones.

[–] itsdavetho 62 points 1 year ago

Surely this will stop them this time for really real

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"You can't protest agains police violence because we don't have enough police officers". I'm sure that will stop them

[–] cmbabul 17 points 1 year ago

It almost seems like a trap, they are all but saying “please stop protesting we can’t take it any more”, a protest becomes a coup/revolution if the authorities refuse to concede to the demands and are overwhelmed by the protesters

[–] RozhkiNozhki 56 points 1 year ago

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

Well the protestors will have to stop now that they aren't allowed to protest

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wish the French people a very pleasant Sixth Republic

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

[–] postmateDumbass 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmk when they post a guillotine GoFundMe

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

May the North Africans lead the revolution

[–] Chainweasel 28 points 1 year ago

So sixth republic when?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

La police est 💩💩

[–] alcamtar 8 points 1 year ago

So we are commanding you not to protest police, also we don't have enough police to enforce our command.

We know you're upset with the police but don't come into our police-free zone. Pretty please.

Longer I think about this the funnier it gets.

[–] Neutral_Minion 8 points 1 year ago

Oh boy that's going to go over well

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The French right now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

LOL, clowns.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

French authorities confirmed that a protest against police violence set to take place in Paris on Saturday could not go ahead due to police shortages.

"We don't have enough cops to commit violence on everyone protesting so we have cancelled the protest."

[+] andrewta -35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People protesting: no problem

People protesting and then certain groups “joining” them and burning cars and breaking windows requires a police presence.

Stop burning shit.

And yeah it won’t stop the protest from happening just because the French authorities banned the protest. Probably a few people will get arrested though.

[–] TheGreatFox 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ever hear the term "Agent provocateur"?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blame the victim.

It's such a common maneuver when you want to undermine a person or a movement's legitimacy that we even gave it a name.

In the United States MLK talked about this in so many words. He described perfectly how many people will say that they agree with your goals but not with your methods. And if you were to ask what their methods are, it would involve waiting. The problem with that is that waiting doesn't fix anything.

[+] andrewta -7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where was I blaming the victim?

I openly said it isn’t the protestors burning shit.

The other victim would be the owners of the cars and businesses… how am I blaming them?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, that's an easy one. You framed the problem wrong. When you decided to talk about the problem in terms of the protests, you decided that the actual problem was not important. So that was basically irresponsible.

And the outcome of your framing decision is anti-democratic. If the only thing we look at is the protest, then it's easy for people to say and believe that a fringe element of looters or rioters is unavoidable, and therefore either the police should have more power to deal with protesters or protests themselves ought to be canceled.

It's certainly possible to discuss protests and avoid the above pitfalls, but it definitely requires careful consideration.

[–] andrewta 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m hoping there is a hidden /s in there.

It is entirely possible to talk about who is burning shit and care about the protests and care about the protestors and care about the businesses that are being destroyed. Just because I didn’t mention every single one of those things in a comment doesn’t mean I don’t care about them.

[–] Tangent5280 3 points 1 year ago

Please do try to mention them anyway, because not doing so comes across as callousness, regardless of how you actually feel about it.

Your argument is a valid viewpoint - you want positive change for the people protesting, but you want it without any of the wanton violence or burning that goes along with rioting; correct?

However, it is also true that you were: (1) placing the onus of non-violence on the people who were wronged, and protesting here. (2) assuming there was some way for the people protesting, to seperate themselves from the bad actors who engage in these riots with the sole purpose of destroying and looting shit. (3) assuming that there are other easily available methods were the masses could change the system they're in without any of the rioting. (4) assuming that the powers that be (legislative bodies/lawmakers/policy builders) willingly engage in these methods in good faith, for which history already has plenty of counter-examples.