this post was submitted on 21 May 2024
500 points (96.0% liked)

NonCredibleDefense

6625 readers
644 users here now

A community for your defence shitposting needs

Rules

1. Be niceDo not make personal attacks against each other, call for violence against anyone, or intentionally antagonize people in the comment sections.

2. Explain incorrect defense articles and takes

If you want to post a non-credible take, it must be from a "credible" source (news article, politician, or military leader) and must have a comment laying out exactly why it's non-credible. Low-hanging fruit such as random Twitter and YouTube comments belong in the Matrix chat.

3. Content must be relevant

Posts must be about military hardware or international security/defense. This is not the page to fawn over Youtube personalities, simp over political leaders, or discuss other areas of international policy.

4. No racism / hatespeech

No slurs. No advocating for the killing of people or insulting them based on physical, religious, or ideological traits.

5. No politics

We don't care if you're Republican, Democrat, Socialist, Stalinist, Baathist, or some other hot mess. Leave it at the door. This applies to comments as well.

6. No seriousposting

We don't want your uncut war footage, fundraisers, credible news articles, or other such things. The world is already serious enough as it is.

7. No classified material

Classified ‘western’ information is off limits regardless of how "open source" and "easy to find" it is.

8. Source artwork

If you use somebody's art in your post or as your post, the OP must provide a direct link to the art's source in the comment section, or a good reason why this was not possible (such as the artist deleting their account). The source should be a place that the artist themselves uploaded the art. A booru is not a source. A watermark is not a source.

9. No low-effort posts

No egregiously low effort posts. E.g. screenshots, recent reposts, simple reaction & template memes, and images with the punchline in the title. Put these in weekly Matrix chat instead.

10. Don't get us banned

No brigading or harassing other communities. Do not post memes with a "haha people that I hate died… haha" punchline or violating the sh.itjust.works rules (below). This includes content illegal in Canada.

11. No misinformation

NCD exists to make fun of misinformation, not to spread it. Make outlandish claims, but if your take doesn’t show signs of satire or exaggeration it will be removed. Misleading content may result in a ban. Regardless of source, don’t post obvious propaganda or fake news. Double-check facts and don't be an idiot.


Join our Matrix chatroom


Other communities you may be interested in


Banner made by u/Fertility18

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
all 15 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 65 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

post this to .ml and time how long till its deleted, bots are allowed.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

lemmy.ml is tankie cancer, but ngl blahaj is pretty shit too. They removed the post https://sh.itjust.works/post/18252169 for "Bigotry"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Lol not even gonna try to explain how that's bigotry? Just "whatever".

You talk about .ml removing posts, and they do, but I show you that your instance blahaj does it as well and your response is just "whatever"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

just looked at it, seems like anything close no n*zi imagery is not allowed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

That's fair tho

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I mean it can be both (broadly speaking). NATO loves expanding and broadening the strength of its alliance, weakening a geopolitical enemy, opening up new markets for their shiny shiny weapons, and provoking a little low-level conflict to keep everyone alert and stay on top of new tactical developments now that the landscape of war is changing.

But also, holding Russia at bay is a necessary noble thing to do, and all these breakaway republics are acting out of pure self preservation necessity when they join an alliance that will bloody Russia's nose for them if they get messed with.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

All Russia had to do was join NATO and stop claiming the former Soviet Union has to be restored. NATO exists because Russia was considered a threat. Were it not a threat, its entire existence would be futile.

[–] BombOmOm 54 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

NATO was on the decline in the last decade. There were many articles asking if it was just a cold war holdover and many countries weren't paying their fair share. Then Russia invaded Ukraine, starting the largest war in Europe since WWII, and suddenly new countries are joining NATO and members are increasingly paying their 2%.

[–] samus12345 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

All Russia had to do was join NATO

They did try in 1954, but were turned down.

[–] NOT_RICK 26 points 5 months ago

Putin asked about it again when he came to power, he just didn’t want to wait in line or meet the prerequisites like the “countries that don’t matter” did

[–] TankovayaDiviziya 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Russia is testing if NATO is indeed an anti-Russia alliance. It may well be, although Russians culturally distinguish themselves from the West and would never align with the latter. Even after the fall of the Soviet Union, Mikhail Gorbachev, the man responsible for the collapse of communism, still expressed concerns about NATO expansion. Russia even set up CSTO, as something of a counter to NATO, with several former Soviet republics. So, this clearly shows Russia wants to be independent from the West and carve their own influence; that ideology being called Eurasianist.

Keep in mind though that the West and Putin were friendly in the 00s but the former keep questioning the human rights issue in Russia. So, I think this annoyed Putin (as many dictators tend to be when questioned about human rights) and only galvanised his and Russia's anti-Western sentiment. There are many Russians who are pro-West and liberal, but they are a minority in comparison to the nationalist and Eurasianist minded Russian population. Because if Putin truly doesn't have support, the support for the Russian invasion of Ukraine would have already collapsed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

I find the term "Breakaway Republic" rather problematic. Most of the countries that used to be in the Warsaw Pact or USSR were independent before World War II. They did not just break away, they re-established their independence.