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[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's weird to see the traditional roles getting reversed here

Where the established order would usually represent the conservative side of the schism, here the conservatives are the schismatics with official doctrine, to the degree of even rejecting official decrees where it suits them or even if it really doesn't just because they hate modernity (see the weirdos still using latin despite not understanding it at all)

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, because they aren't actually conservative. They're regressive, if anything.

For these guys, if the Pope disagrees with them, then they'll reject the Pope. Most of them probably already identify as Christian, not Catholic, anyway. (They probably wouldn't say Protestant, if they were more specific it would probably be because they were Baptists or something.)

[–] Mbourgon 9 points 5 months ago

I’ve been hearing people say “not my pope” for years now. Oh, and that Jesus was too “woke” and weak, turning the other cheek.

[–] captainlezbian 2 points 5 months ago

It happens in Catholicism sometimes because liberal Catholics just ignore shit and get ignored until they start leaving. The church has understood this since the Protestant reformation.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I despise a lot about religion but I have enjoyed seeing the Catholic Church slowly become a bit more accepting of humanity’s nature by being more inclusive with the LGBT population and now seeing this. It gives me hope that religion is capable of growing alongside people and adapting to something better than it is has been and is.

I support religion as long as it gives people a sense of community, hope, and strength. When it starts taking things away, being oppressive, and not holding its officiants accountable for wrong doing, it’s wrong.

[–] kromem 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I support religion as long as it gives people a sense of community, hope, and strength.

I used to feel this way. Then 2020 happened and I realized just how damaging any degree of magical thinking and faith based reasoning was for a society.

I no longer think there's an innocuous amount of irrationality. Just varying degrees of social harm that come with any of it.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If it's personal don't answer, but are you going to dump the theology studies? I am a bit curious, since when I lost my faith I lost my interest in doing academic work on theology.

If you do please publish your stuff on the Gospel of Thomas first.

[–] kromem 4 points 5 months ago

Not at all. I have never believed in the supernatural, so that's not related to my interest or lack thereof in the material.

I am actually toying with the idea of writing out some of the Thomas research in more depth soon, actually.

Still not under a real name like with a book or anything, but some longer posts vs just comments.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 2 points 5 months ago

Cancer is also capable of growing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

#NotMyPope

American catholics have long disfavored papal influence so this isn't likely to change any minds. Additionally, while the pope is mostly a piece of shit, this is a nice move - so it's broken clock time.

[–] stoly 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This pope is pretty stand out. Previous one was an idiot.

[–] kromem 2 points 5 months ago

Don't talk about the Emperor that way. The Senate forced his hand.