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‘This doesn’t make sense. How much shopping can you really carry on a bicycle?’ (www.brisbanetimes.com.au)

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It all depends on your bike, your strength, and what kind of storage you have on the bike. With some big saddle bags, I could probably carry a lot more than I do with the front basket I have. But I also don't mind going out more often and getting less since I'm using a bicycle that doesn't pollute or cost anything to operate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Based

[–] kurikai 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why drive a ute to pick up a bottle of milk? Just save money buy not buying a massive expensive car for the rare buying of an appliance and pay for the appliance to be delivered instead. Bicycles are fine for plenty of shopping, have people not heard of backpacks?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

waterproof panniers

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I didn't get a pickup so that I could transport groceries but I can't imagine having to do all my grocery shopping by bike. It's a +20km round trip and I usually come back with 2 - 3 bags of food which would be impossible to transport by either of my bikes so I would need a third one or a trailer just for grocery shopping and even in that case the issue that remains is that my SO couldn't come with me unless she also rides a bike.

I mean I could do it if I absolutely had to but having a car makes it so much easier. I tried bike commuting for a while too but quickly realized that it's turning an enjoyable hobby into a chore that I approach with apprehension, so I stopped doing that and instead only ride bikes as a hobby and for fun.

[–] jagungal 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In your current situation, yes, a car is a lot better. But when it comes to urban planning it's better to plan a city to have shops closer to people so that they can do their shopping by bicycle or by foot. So when people say, "who would do their shopping by bike" in parliament it's a rhetorical trick to make you think about how things are now instead of thinking about how things should be in the future for people other than yourself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Oh yeah there's definitely a lot to improve. A ton of people would be more than willing to ditch their cars if there was viable alternatives that don't massively inconvenience our daily lives.

There is a grocery store only about 500 meters from my house but small ones like that are so much more expensive than the one I go to now. I'm easily saving my monthly fuel costs just by shopping there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You could also spend the fuel money you're saving in your small local grocery store if you just walk the 7 minutes. Every trip not made by car is a win for the environment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Grocery trips are just a tiny portion of from where my fuel costs come from. I use the truck for work. I'd save practically no money at all by walking to the store.

[–] captainlezbian 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah I’ve got grocery stores near enough that I don’t even need cargo space on my bike. Which is good because I don’t have a place to put my bike in my apartment

[–] br3d 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Having a car makes it easier because society picks up the externalities and hides the harms that you do. So yes, it'll feel easier because you're not seeing the whole picture or paying the real cost

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I need a car for work so getting rid of it is not an option either way so I don't feel any guilt about using it to haul groceries. There's a lot to improve infrastructure-wise to encourage other means of transportation but I don't see cars as inherently bad. It's only bad when you force everyone to get one (or two) to even be able to live their lives.

[–] gmtom 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

20km just to buy groceries. America is a joke

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I live in Finland

[–] gmtom 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm so sorry

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Don't be. I'm much rather here.

[–] Paragone 9 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Cargo-bikes exist.

With reason.

Just as many not-on-public-transport families, in North America, have both a tiny get-around vehicle and a minivan, for loading everybody-and-everything into,

having a light riding-for-the-joy-of-riding bike & a heavier "truck" bike does make sense, for many.

( do have a pair of locks for the truck-bike, so you can lock both ends of it, though. )

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I went by I want a lock more expensive than my bike but that does not hold up so well to e-bikes :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I hope rentable cargo bikes show up in my city soon. I can't justify spending the money on a bike I'll only occasionally use. Currently I'll rent a car instead but there are plenty of times when a cargo bike would work fine

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I'm working on repairing a truck-trike, that was gifted to me when a friend was clearing out "junk". In it's original form it's designed to carry up to 500 pounds. We'll see how that all works out this Summer. ;-)

[–] PlantObserver 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wow sounds like Quax is a dumbass. "A lot if you're not a pussy." is my usual answer

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

How #quaxing Became a Rallying Call for Everyday Cyclists https://momentummag.com/quaxing/

[–] doingthestuff 7 points 5 months ago

Doesn't matter if you live somewhere you can't ride a bike.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've lived in Brisbane. The humidity in summer is insanity levels. I feel people miss this crucial aspect, when talking about cities in areas as humid, and hot as Brisbane.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Luckily the summers will be a lot cooler, if everybody and their cousin only use their car for every inch they move out of their homes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I do get your point. And, I love my bike. I've ridden EVERY street in my town. Every.

But, reality is reality. Ib remember a Brisbane summer that was so humid I decided to get to work REALLY early, so I could beat the heat. 7:30am walking from the bus stop to the office. About 1km walk. By the time I got there my shirt was stuck to me.

Now, that's a hot year, and it's not always that bad, but it shows how serious the heat can be there.

eBikes are a godsend for that kind of heat. But, they're not cheap. People are financially stressed, and already have cars.

It's a hard sell.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Panniers, a frame bag, and a back pack work for most things. And a trailer for when I need a bit more carrying capacity. That's been my approach for over a decade.