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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/15408610

Texas mom says police held her face in pile of fire ants, covering head and neck with hundreds of bite marks

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[–] themeatbridge 49 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ruben Espinoza, the police chief for the Santa Fe Independent School District, told NBC affiliate KPRC of Houston that the video does not tell the full story of what happened.

The video where she's shown hog-tied face down in a pile of fire ants? Yeah, there's nothing she could have done that justifies what we see in the video. No criminal or suspect ever deserves police brutality, regardless of the crime.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago

"Didn't believe the bodycam video!”

Acab

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Cruel and unusual? Extrajudicial? Just another day in The Greatest Nation on God's Green Earth.

[–] Mango 6 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A woman accused police officers in Santa Fe, Texas, of holding her face down in a pile of fire ants, leaving bite marks all over her head and chest.

The suit said a second officer arrived at the scene, slammed Rogers to the ground and handcuffed her "so tight that the handcuffs cut into her skin."

"This lawsuit is brought to prevent this from ever happening again in the future because no officer should hold a citizen down in a pile of fire ants after they have already been detained/seized," the complaint said.

At a news conference Saturday, Rogers said her arrest "underscores a significant issue: the absence of empathy and human compassion among some individuals in law enforcement."

Ruben Espinoza, the police chief for the Santa Fe Independent School District, told NBC affiliate KPRC of Houston that the video does not tell the full story of what happened.

Espinoza acknowledged that Rogers did yell about ants, but he told KPRC that she was lifted from the ground seconds after she alerted the officers to the insects.


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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Espinoza acknowledged that Rogers did yell about ants, but he told KPRC that she was lifted from the ground seconds after she alerted the officers to the insects.

And what? They continued to let ants bite her face? She had no less than 50 bites I'm sure and ants don't all arrange themselves and then shout, "Bite... NOW!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

and ants don’t all arrange themselves and then shout, “Bite… NOW!”

You know, as someone who has stepped in a fire ant pile and not realized it, I am pretty sure they do. They make sure they are all well spread out, and then bam. Not that it makes any difference to this story. Just wanted to pass along my very painful experience.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer 2 points 6 months ago

Fair enough. Fire ants are annoyingly smart at times.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago (2 children)
  1. An "officer came running up to her vehicle yelling for her to stop. ... Rogers 'panicked and drove the wrong way' down a bus-only lane." Assuming that's accurate, then if the police tell you to stop, and you drive your vehicle away, they're probably going to get physical with you once they catch up to you. That's their job. Their only alternative to responding with physical force at that point is to just shrug shoulders and say "O well we tried" and let someone drive around "panicked" in unexpected places in an environment where little school children are walking around.
  2. I do not understand why it's difficult to find just the long, unedited cut of the bodycam footage of what happened. Every single video I was able to find is this weirdly intercut and looped version which focuses on the one part that everyone agrees happened, where you can't really see the context, and then it's overlaid over someone's interpretation of what happened, which is a whole bunch of irritating bullshit.
  3. With #2 in mind as a caveat, I think that reading between the lines, what happened is that they stopped her car by blocking it with their cars, pulled her out, put her on the ground to handcuff her, she started screaming about ants, and then after 13 seconds they pulled her up. Then she started struggling, and they put her back on the ground and held her there in the ant pile for a long time while they hogtied her, and that's where all the carpet of ant bites in the photo came from.
  4. I am far from an ACAB person, but I do not understand what goes on in US police training that if someone's actively struggling with you, you need to start hurting them until they calm down. I've seen this reaction over and over in police videos, and I think I have literally never once seen it be successful at the supposed goal. It's just not how people operate. I get it that you need to use force if someone's using force against the police to try to avoid getting arrested. That part actually makes sense to me. But the part where someone's resisting getting arrested, and the cops start hurting them and then usually seem for-real surprised that now they're struggling more, is genuinely confusing to me how they can't figure it out.
[–] FlashMobOfOne 11 points 6 months ago

I am far from an ACAB person, but I do not understand what goes on in US police training that if someone's actively struggling with you

They don't have to.

They enjoy it. The cruelty is the point.

ACAB

[–] PriorityMotif 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Look up police use of the "wrist lock"