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[–] RubicTopaz 193 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Just in: capitalism continues to be shit

[–] Allonzee 38 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Celebrated greed will be our end.

[–] Daft_ish 8 points 6 months ago

The kick is there is a large voting block who thinks we aren't being greedy enough.

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[–] 3volver 90 points 6 months ago (5 children)

This shit actually hurts my soul. This is the type of shit as to why we might not make it. We have the technology to mitigate climate change yet we don't because those in power don't want to see their power decrease. It's a serious reason why we might not make it. How do we even begin to take direct action? I really have no clue, this entire planet, life as we know it, is entirely fucked if we don't do something soon. The US government gave billions to implement charging infrastructure and the corps did jack SHIT with it, the government has become the corps fuck pig, bent over dishing out money while getting fucked.

[–] set_secret 23 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Might not make it? Sorry man we're literally looking down the barrel of end times.

Human greed can only be stopped when the earth has nothing left to give.

This is the reality we all exist in and 99% of us are powerless to change it, unless we all collectively agree to (spoiler we're not gunna).

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

EVs are garbage anyways. The only way to actually save anything is to migrate most of the commonly occurring transportation to public electric systems like trains.

EVs are made in a non sustainable manner by raping the earth for the last scraps of rare earth materials, they're hardly the answer

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Certainly correct, we still need a path to direct action and it needs to be everywhere.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

It's not a might at this point.

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[–] TokenBoomer 66 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Sabotaged, or just efficiently increasing shareholder value. It’s called “Fiduciary Responsibility”.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I am constantly baffled how refusing to futute-proof the company meets the definition of "fiduciary responsibility".

"Let's spike today's profits by destroying tomorrow's profits" doesn't seem very responsible to me.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's because it's a prisoners dillema. If they do it and other companies don't, they are at a disadvantage. The only way to get proper behavior is to have the government force companies to behave.

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[–] Allonzee 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The desires of private shareholders, which have exclusively become "give me more NOW!" are wholly incompatible with the long term needs of our species, such as homeostasis with our sole shared COMMUNal habitat. The private shareholders that dictate how our economy runs through their captured governments literally only care as far out as their next quarterly earnings/ego score report, the planet can explode beyond that as far as they're concerned, and my pet theory is that the wealth class is so egotistical, living like Pharoahs as others suffer and still needing mooaaaaaaar, that they kind of want the world to end after they're gone, as they were the only point of it ever existing from their perspective.

Our species only pays lip service to the second, because many to most of us have been successfully propagandized to believe in the lie that we may one day be in the irresponsible sociopath hoarder con-man class, whether through lottery or not buying lattes, lol. And heaven forbid we kneecap the gluttonous, destructive lifestyle we delude ourselves we'll one day have with... barf... responsibilities towards the societies that facilitated such unethical levels of antisocial wealth hoarding to begin with. Punching down looks fun amirite?

Basically the self-inflicted doom of our species that we're sleep walking towards can be boiled down to this meme:

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[–] VinnyDaCat 42 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Nothing surprising.

EVs have been developed since the 90s at least as far as I know, and progress on them has been sabotaged at nearly every turn by the industry.

[–] AngryCommieKender 8 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Technically the first one was developed in the late 1800s, but it had a range of about 5 meters.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

41 miles at 20mph.

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[–] Baphomet_The_Blasphemer 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I remember an early Saturn EV that was never sold, only leased so GM could maintain ownership of them. Even with a limited range, the drivers all loved them for commuting and running errands, and many tried to purchase them outright, which GM refused. Eventually, GM issued a mandatory recall for all the Saturn EVs, mothballed the project, and then they released the Hummer... made me sick even at the time.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (12 children)

Japanese car manufacturers actually sell a lot of EVs... in Japan. They don't seem to be interested in selling those mini EVs abroad.

[–] Etterra 20 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Well to be fair, trying to sell anything with the word mini in it in America is it uphill struggle; if there's one thing us Americans hate, it's walking uphill.

[–] Zehzin 14 points 6 months ago

Or just walking.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

And people don't really care about it . Let the wheel spin and get as much as you can while you ride, don't think about next drivers.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (13 children)

is that purely because they can't make them well or is there another reason?

honestly the japanese EV ive been in felt decent?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (18 children)

I know Toyota is still ragging on EVs because they invested a lot into hydrogen tech and want that to be the next big thing instead. But I didn't know Honda, Mazda and Suzuki also under-invested.

[–] Code_a 9 points 6 months ago

It isn't about development investment. It's about engines. Engines have long tail after sales profits from maintenance and parts. It's why Toyota recently unveiled their ammonia fueled engine and declared electric vehicles are dead. Electric engines remove a ton of after sales profits in the form of servicing, spare parts and upgrades.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Honda is full-on for hydrogen as well.

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[–] kalleboo 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Japan doesn't have enough electricity. After Fukushima, they lost most of their nuclear. The country is densely populated, and the parts that aren't populated are covered in forested mountains, which all makes building the required amount of renewables very difficult. So today and in the future, Japan runs on coal and natural gas. So they make cars that run on hydrogen (which is more efficient to create out of their imported natural gas than burning the gas for electricity) and then sell those abroad greenwashed as "but you can produce hydrogen from green electricity!"

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The Japanese car companies put all their eggs in the hydrogen basket, despite their early head start in EV with the Toyota Prius and such, and as hydrogen looks to be more and more of a dead end due to transportation and safety concerns, of course they are going to be sandbagging EV adoption to buy time and catch up.

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[–] buzz86us 13 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Force them to commit or repeal Chinese tariffs

[–] Maggoty 23 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The tariffs were explicitly to protect them. To prevent them from having to compete. We're about to eat a lot of shit.

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[–] dropped_the_chief 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We're all going to fry in old age. Our children are going to become sterile. Who tf knows what's going to happen to whatever ppl make it past that.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Seems kind of spurious to call lobbying sabotage as if the politicians being lobbied are machines and not human beings doing what they've been elected to do as nominally bourgeois party members.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Great timeline isn't it

[–] _sideffect 8 points 6 months ago

Sounds like oil tycoons didn't find ev adoption humorous any more

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tesla and Tata Motors are exceptions noted, but noted highlighted in the article.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

Tesla isn't really a major car company in the transitional sense since they didn't exist at all as a pre-EV car company.

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