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[–] [email protected] 103 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Now imagine if you could use FIVE digits for something as important as a bank account.

[–] 9point6 43 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Even more hilarious is the number of banks that have online login systems that have a maximum length of like 12 characters for the password.

and then the 2nd factor? Yeah that's just another password.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I've met ones that restrict passwords to be 6–8 characters

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[–] techt 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I use 8! My mom called me ridiculous for doing that :(

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It is! How long does it even take to type in 40320 digits?!?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I figure gotta be, at least 45 seconds!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

She's right, 8 is not a very secure code.

[–] DaddleDew 84 points 6 months ago

You can see that 19xx line continue at 20xx too

[–] [email protected] 68 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Now someone tell me which pin is the least common one so we all can use it to be safe.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The ones that are showing black dots.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The fact that every 4-digit pin is in this picture shows quite well how these are pretty easy to crack.

[–] CleoTheWizard 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Idk why you would be cracking a PIN code. They aren’t really typically used for online security (and shouldn’t be). And if your attacker is targeting you, the PIN code isn’t meant to stop them.

What it does stop is you finding a random card on the side of the street and finding the nearest ATM to withdraw all of the cash from.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

which will lock the card after 3 tries, so even if you are using your birth year chances are they are not going to guess it

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (2 children)

My bank just gave me a random PIN number. Choosing my own was not an option.

[–] SpaceNoodle 15 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I'd forget that so hard.

I used to be able to memorize random sequences of numbers when I was young, but my brain doesn't do that tedious shit any more.

[–] Phoenix3875 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Password manager is the way. It's recommended for all password related things anyway.

[–] techognito 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And good ones like bitwarden or keepass, not bad ones that get hacked almost yearly like lastpass

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[–] jaybone 42 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] AirDevil 69 points 6 months ago (1 children)

NCC-1701 is the ship designator of the Enterprise from Star Trek

[–] jaybone 10 points 6 months ago (5 children)

This occurred to me right after I posted. But are there that many ST fans?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] AirDevil 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's pretty iconic and when you need to make a 4-digit pin quickly, it's something that stands out if you're a fan of the series. But as the heat map suggests, it may not be the most secure

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[–] untorquer 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (6 children)

damn, 0451 is blocked from view :-(

[–] jaybone 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] radicalautonomy 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

*******

thats what I see

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[–] chemical_cutthroat 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Looks like there is a bright at 2846, which makes me laugh. My pin is safe, though, at least in this graph, so I guess I'm good.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I imagine many are common based on their geometrical shape on the number pad.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

For my main card it is from the pin I used to reload my Gauntlet save at the arcade, which was based on an easy to memorize joystick pattern used to select the pin on the cabinet

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That reddit post is a repost too. Actual source:

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago (3 children)

There is also the original 'original source'. It includes a version of the picture without the labels and the axis flipped.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

this is so much better. Always read the x axis before the y axis

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wanna know what these black dots are. Forbidden numbers? Numbers the mind cannot guess?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Just the least used. 9805 for example. Mines dark orange and I wasn't even trying, I just made it a physical pattern rather than a number combo.

EDIT: You know, I bet 9805 is gaining popularity in countries that use the Day/:Month/:Year format. Aug 9th 2005 is the birthday of a fair number of adults, now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's text over mine, I have no idea how I did. Judging by surrounding stuff, I think I'm ok. The numbers are fairly random.

The bank gave me the code and I just memorized it, and never bothered to change it.

Anyone have a version of this that doesn't have anything overlayed on it?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

If the bank is going to make me memorize both a unique 10+ character password and a 4 digit pin, of course I'm going to make a dead easy PIN.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I spy 2112 in there 🤘🏻

[–] nucleative 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

White is most common and dark orange/grey are the least common? By how many standard deviations?

[–] over_clox 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Very valid question, but honestly I hardly think it matters much in this context. It highlights people's patterns, and apparently humans are the worst to ask for random numbers.

On a side note, what's up with the hotspot at 5049?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] over_clox 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hmm, it seems you're probably right Last night I tried lining it up with a random toothpick on the table in front of me LOL!

I tried again using the edge of a sheet of paper, and yeah it does seem more like it's 5150.

Whatever. Still, what's up with that?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Eddie Van Halen used a guitar amp called the Peavey 5150. I imagine it's that.

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[–] Tudsamfa 6 points 6 months ago

Set all pins to 6806, got it.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

There's a noticeable bias to using 10,11, or 12 as either the 1st and 2nd or the 3rd and 4th digits too, especially where the other two digits are lower. Like 11XX, or XX12. Wonder if there's a conscious reason for that or just a notable unconscious human bias for some number combinations?

[–] Shellbeach 12 points 6 months ago (4 children)

They are birthdate MM/DD or DD/MM

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