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How is the US able to instantly stop an attack from Iran but powerless when Israel attacks hospitals? (lemm.ee)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/nostupidquestions

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I'm missing something here. Admittedly, I'm making the assumption that blowing up hospitals is a bad thing to do.

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[–] FuglyDuck 84 points 8 months ago

There’s two answers that are both legitimate.

The first is that we don’t have any sort of defensive weapons between Israel and Gaza. To intercept missiles/bombs/whatever

Stuff like the Phalanx and RIM-116 at sea; or C-RAM (technically it’s the “land based phalanx system”…. But there are some critical difference in radar and the munitions it uses.

The second answer is that the US navy hasn’t been ordered to. They haven’t been ordered to because their civilian leadership is 100% okay with Israel bombing the fuck out of Gaza. Yes, that includes Biden.

[–] OutsizedWalrus 70 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, for one, the Iranian attack was a missile attack that could be taken down by anti air missile.

Two, USA isn’t exactly irans ally

[–] MyPornViewingAccount 49 points 8 months ago

You get hours to plot trajectories and line up a shot on an incoming missile or drone from those rsnges.

For a bomb dropped from an aircraft theres 15 - 30 seconds from release to impact.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What everyone else said, but also Iran probably informed the US through an intermediary when they are going to launch from where they're going to launch and what the trajectories were going to be.

This would allow them to have their proportional response, but also de-escalate with the US, allowing them to shoot it all down, and at least from the US's perspective prevent upward escalation

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If that's true that's actually fucking hilarious

"Look man we gotta make this look legit or else my wife is gonna be SO MAD at me."

[–] Shardikprime 5 points 8 months ago

That's what MAD was about all this time

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

you have no idea how much that happens with foreign policy. it's not about right or wrong when it comes to foreign policy. countries don't have friends or morals they have interests both international and domestic. That can change on a dime.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Politics. US is ally with Israel but notxwith Iran, US isn't the world police but a country defending their interests which includes their allies.

I somehow hope, that this slow drone attack is also some political theatre like, we shoot some drones to protest our embassy bombing, but we won't go further

[–] nadram 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

US politicians are unfortunate hostages to their bigger sponsors / financiers. Most of the players on both sides of the US political spectrum have been funded by israeli or pro-israeli contributors. We call Israel an ally, and that's a nice coat of shiny paint to hide the Stockholm syndrome.

[–] trxxruraxvr 20 points 8 months ago

They're not powerless, but unwilling to use their power against an ally.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In addition to the other answers you’ve received, it appears there was a period of sever al hours between the drone launches and them arriving at Israel. There are probably seconds between launch and impact on Gaza

[–] teft 19 points 8 months ago

Minutes, not seconds. I used to be a counter ballistics radar operator. You can track a mortar, rocket, or artillery round in about 20 seconds from launch. It takes about a minute to send rounds back to the source. About 30 seconds to a minute after that the initial rounds will land. A minute after that the counter battery will land and destroy anything at the launch site.

[–] morphballganon 12 points 8 months ago

Alliances like NATO or the EU come with non-aggression stipulations. You can't engage in warfare with an ally. If that ally happens to be bombing their own people, that would only allow for intervention if it was written into the accords signed by the nations in the alliance (hint: it's not).

Now, if Israel started bombing Italy, for example, that would not only allow for an intervention; it would require one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Nations are perhaps the best example of “do as I say, not as I do.” The ethics you and I live our lives by have no place in international politics.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think you know exactly why.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

The US needs an extreme clean up in the government. Unfortunately, it's going to be harder to do every election that it doesn't happen