THE POLICE PROBLEM

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Buddy that's every cop everywhere. In the USA cops require less training than a hairdresser.

Give a rando a badge and a gun and there's a good chance they'll use that power to terrorize people.

Ok, this is a good test. Show me the good cops in this situation who are fighting for this family. Doing what they can to out the pieces of shit who stroke their cocks to dead children.

IF there is a single good cop at this station they would be working to end this, right?

Eh, it isn't an over simplification unless you haven't bothered to look into the origins of the initialism and the ideas behind it.

The entire point of ACAB as a movement is that it's a systemic problem, and until that system changes, every officer is part of the problem, even if they as individuals are "good" cops.

And, having family that are cops, and being friends with the sheriff of my county, I agree with that principle, and have argued it with those people. I know plenty of officers that genuinely want to serve their community and help people. But the system they're in is still horrible, and unable to be fixed from within unless there's a top down change.

Even the sheriff here, and again, he's a friend, isn't top enough to make lasting change. At best, he can enforce better policies while in office. And he does. Not everything I've tried to talk him into, but part of that is being obligated to deal with local government and police union.

So, yeah, the movement behind the letters is absolutely, perfectly summed up by those letters, and using them makes perfect sense, even when whoever is using them isn't aware of all of that and is just bashing cops. It allows opportunities like this.

Don't be a dismissive prick. Take opportunities to open a dialogue and make change by doing so.

You sound like the next thing out of your mouth will be, "If you just follow instructions, you have nothing to fear."

Fuck that.

ACAB is pretty simple to understand.

1 in 20 candies in a bowl contain a lethal amount of poison. 19 in 20 are fine. You can't tell the difference unless you eat one, and by then it's too late.

Go ahead and eat one. Not every candy is poisoned, most aren't. Most candies are safe. The odds are in your favor, what are you worried about?

Or does a 5% chance of a candy being poisoned motivate you to treat the entire bowl as being poisoned?

Same with cops. One bad apple spoils the bunch. ACAB.

I don't think so, my understanding of it is that even if one individual cop is a 'good one' they still work for a broken system and help in some form whatever insanity has led to the people who are meant to protect and serve, instead, routinely shooting unarmed civilians. In the case of this article - a child.

I don't think it helps to think of cops as individuals when it's the collective that's broken. So in this case the simplification is kind of the point.

It's not.

No. Itvlooks like an oversimplification if you zoom in a little. But if you zoom in a little more, and look everywhere, you'll find it holds true.

They aren't all obvious bastards; they are all bastards.

While I agree the issue is complex and everything is not about troopers being inherently mean and brutal, sometimes, one also has to name things plainly.

Hence, ACAB. CQFD.

Your commenting on an extremist community where logic doesn't actually matter anymore.

This is a community that started from pointing out serious problems and talking about how they might be solved, to not actually caring about how to solve the problems and just hating and being polarized.

You are 100% correct because using this term is not going to help figure out realistic ways to solve the problem. It's just going to do what fringe groups do, and make actual solutions impossible to start with. Thus perpetuating the problems the fringe group hates, it's their identity, they can't go without it.

Not only does it prevent solutions but it actually pushes out allies and others who are also passionate about the problem because "they aren't extreme enough". (This is me, I despise this problem and want to support anything I can that aims for actual solutions)

I look forward to all the hate spam, downvotes, and the comments. Which would be no different than if I actually commented on a Nazi community pointing out hypocrisy.

If y'all want to actually solve this problem then extreme, generalized, non-logical, blind-hate, stances aren't going to do it. You're literally becoming a sibling of neo-nazis with this, and you're weakening your own position, and alienating your support, by being extremists about it.

Yeah, by that comment alone, smart money's on you being the only one to say your username out loud. 🤌🏽