this post was submitted on 06 Apr 2024
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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After arriving at the Murry family home, police instructed everyone inside to come out with their hands up. Nakala Murry says that's when Aderrien emerged from around a corner, running toward the door. Capers then opened fire.

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[–] Crackhappy 148 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dear lord, talk about victim blaming. They shot the kid because his mom and her boyfriend had domestic violence issues? FUCK THAT. The reason the kid was shot because ALL COPS ARE BASTARDS.

[–] grue 91 points 8 months ago (1 children)

IMO the most salient point of the article:

Carlos Moore, the attorney representing the Murry family, told NPR that the court-filed petition is "outlandish" and suggests the move by the court is retaliation for her ongoing lawsuit against the City of Indianola over her son's shooting.

"I believe they are just harassing her," Moore said. "She is a single mother and she does not deserve this pure harassment."

[–] CosmicTurtle 77 points 8 months ago

Without even opening the article, I'm going to guess this woman is a person of color.

Opens article

Why am I not surprised?

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago

no one is ever safe from police violence. not the victim, not the witnesses, not bystanders, not children, not people following commands, not unarmed people with their hands in the air, no one.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

How can this still surprise you in 2024? Like, what expectation did this defy?

[–] Dupree878 1 points 8 months ago

My ex was from Indianola.

You can’t expect a cop to show up and not shoot a black person. I mean, that’s just not how it’s done in the catfish farming capital of Mississippi.